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 VGLeaks: PlayStation 4 "Orbis" Roadmap
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Orbis Roadmap -

VGLeaks has released a product roadmap for ORBIS "PlayStation 4" citing the product lifecycle beginning as early as 2011.

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2011 June/July – PC with Win7 64-bit and a “jailbroken” ATI r9 graphics card
2011 Sept/Oct – PC with Win7 64-bit and a “jailbroken” ATI r10 graphics card
2012 Q1 – disclosure to more developers
2012 E3 – potential unveiling window start
2012 Jul – devkits for engineers writing OS
2012 Q3 – first true hardware prototype devkits
2013 E3 – potential unveiling window end
2013 Q4 – launch
Rumour Round Up:

PS4 "Orbis"
- AMD APU Solution (Jaguar/Steamroller), 4 cores, Higher Clock than X720/Durango
- Maybe AMD 8000 series GPU solution
- 2-4GB GDDR5
- Launch Fall 2013/Early 2014

Xbox 720 "Durango"
- AMD Jaguar 1.6GHZ 8-Core
- AMD 8800/8900 GPU
- 8GB Ram (DDR3?)
- Launch 2013
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the 720 will destroy the PS 4 if those specs are true...
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Can't wait for the reveals
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Originally Posted by Da Ill One
the 720 will destroy the PS 4 if those specs are true...
there's a difference between DDR3 and DDR5 people
I a.ssume you are aware that Xbox 360 has 512MB of GDDR5 as both system and vram memory [one unified pool]? :D

Both new consoles will have unified pools, Durango with DDR and Orbis with GDDR. Cheap DDR will allow larger variety of a.ssets and better texture resolution, but GDDR will allow much faster transfer times, lower latencies, better streaming. In the end, both consoles will end up with very simmilar visuals, but they will be achieved with different rendering tactics.
They're looking very close in terms of both power and design.
I don't see it as Sony being cheap fast ram does have a advantage in certain things .
If they go with slower ram like MS they going to need something to help it .
The OP needs to be clarified on the memory front, as everyone is mixing up the memory. I made the same mistake when I skimmed it quick.

GDDR is not the same as DDR.

From the way it's sounding, the PS4 is going to have dedicated memory for the games and will (probably) have a separate pool for everything else (1 - 2 gb?).

While the xbox is going to just have one giant pool of (albeit slower) memory for everything.
If these numbers are to be believed, would it mean Orbis has significantly faster RAM while the Durango simply has more?

Maybe that's Sony's way of speeding up loads and installs, overall- going the Gamecube route in terms of memory.
Those specs are meaningless if we dont know how much they have modified those PC parts, what new special things did they introduce [durango has few secret sauces], and what is the general look of their architecture [we dont know if they will use stacking or not].

Performance can vary dramatically with slight changes of those things. One thing is certain, currently ON PAPER, both consoles will be ~10x than their predecessors [again we will have consoles of similar performance levels].
4g GDDR5 console will absolutely murder everything out there. What do you mean it's not enough?

and OS doesn't have to take GDDR5. Sony can just put cheap a.ss DDR3 512m ram there just for OS. Bam. problem solved.
The PS1 and 2 were technologically weaker, yet still were the victors of their generations. If the Orbis is reasonably close enough to the 720 in spec, it really doesn't matter. It comes down to developers who understand how to utilize those innard bells and whistles of hardware. Nintendo's 3DS is inferior to the Vita in many ways, but a developer as skilled as Capcom (takes the time to understand what makes 3DS tick), makes the handheld sing in ways you wouldn't believe.

I believe the power of Obis/720, will be indistinguishable when looking at the games side by side. You'll have certain games, which can pull off things on one system, that the other doesn't do as well (think fur rendering GCN vs. XBox 1).

I project that this upcoming generation will be decided by value placed on the systems by their publishers (incentives like PS+, Live infrastructure) and first party exclusives. In any case, my eye is on Sony, as they have a bigger opportunity to surprise me as a gamer, than MS. I feel MS is just going to have a brute strength machine, an extension of current 360 - with no real individuality/identity. Hence my disinterest, even as a sole 360 owner.
According to these rumors, the PS4 has a GPU which is about 500 GFLOPS faster and a memory configuration, which is a lot faster than the one rumored for the nextbox. More RAM is more comfortable for developers, but why choose this slow RAM when you have streaming technology etc?

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Honestly if would be good if they both did use 8 core cpus. Would help push the industry.
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Originally Posted by Da Ill One
the 720 will destroy the PS 4 if those specs are true...
Yeah and outside of Xbox fanboys' head, that happened with the 360 vs the PS3. Both will be very good consoles, though the PS4 will be the better of the two.
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Originally Posted by Da Ill One
the 720 will destroy the PS 4 if those specs are true...
Remember ps2? Ok then
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PS4 has a faster GPU and Memory? Maybe faster CPU too? n*ggas going all in. Copped.
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Will be copping but this is the first time I'm ever debating. Xbox blew ps2 out the water ps2 just had exclusives like smackdown vs raw, gta, and mgs that kept me paying it. Ps3 and the 360 the I end up getting rid of my ps3 with most of the top exclusives going multi this generation

Will be getting both and hopefully both will be beast. I have really grown to hate the ps controller though. Hope they change it but I seriously doubt it
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Originally Posted by sabret00the
Yeah and outside of Xbox fanboys' head, that happened with the 360 vs the PS3. Both will be very good consoles, though the PS4 will be the better of the two.
I don't even know what the fu*k you said about outside xbox heads..


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Originally Posted by Game375
Remember ps2? Ok then
PS 2 only won because it had the MUCH MUCH better game library it was in last place in power behind the Gamecube...

games will run any system of course (well unless you're the 360 and you have a great online component)


but I Was referring to in terms or sheer power... 8 core & 8gb is better then 4 core and 2 - 4 gb... even with GDDR vs ddr3
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Originally Posted by Da Ill One
I don't even know what the fu*k you said about outside xbox heads..





PS 2 only won because it had the MUCH MUCH better game library it was in last place in power behind the Gamecube...

games will run any system of course (well unless you're the 360 and you have a great online component)


but I Was referring to in terms or sheer power... 8 core & 8gb is better then 4 core and 2 - 4 gb... even with GDDR vs ddr3
More is not better in the world of computers. We should all know this by now.
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Originally Posted by Hovi Bryant
More is not better in the world of computers. We should all know this by now.
More is better if properly utilised though ...
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Originally Posted by Da Ill One
More is better if properly utilised though ...
No. Clock speeds and especially ram quantities will fool an eye test 9 times out of 10 if the architecture is different.
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Originally Posted by Da Ill One
More is better if properly utilised though ...
Not really. The GDDR5 is for the graphics card most likely and that itself will probably be dedicated to gaming performance which will be amazing.

The OS doesn't need much ram because for example take a look at the Vita. Iit has 512MB ram and it can do more things than the 360. it can pause the game and go back to the main menu, open up settings, use web browser, different apps(Music unlimited can be running while playing a game.) You don't need tons of ram for that stuff because it's not like how a traditional desktop works.

If this is in fact true than all that ram the PS4 have will be solely for cranking up performance.

Xbox next looks like it will probably focus on having 8gb DDR3 ram with maybe 1GB dedicated to OS. If that's true than they may be focusing on having a bunch of multimedia background functions running like streaming games online, recording etc.

Basically, both systems will have similar performance but it's the system exclusives that will shine. Naughty Dog will absolutely murder the PS4 because to see how they pulled off Uncharted 3 on the old a.ss PS3 and then soon to be Last of Us is amazing. Santa Monica with God of War there's nothing to worry about.

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Originally Posted by Hovi Bryant
PS4 has a faster GPU and Memory? Maybe faster CPU too? n*ggas going all in. Copped.
PS4's CPU won't be faster, just a higher clock. GDDR is faster but the the New Box has double the memory so it balances out.
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Originally Posted by Hovi Bryant
More is not better in the world of computers. We should all know this by now.
Depends on what the "more" is.
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8 cores??
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Originally Posted by Y.G.
PS4's CPU won't be faster, just a higher clock. GDDR is faster but the the New Box has double the memory so it balances out.
GDDR is DEDICATED. DDR is shared. It doesn't balance out.
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