This is BX @ Boxden.com


Sony wants to keep 4K name


 Sony wants to keep 4K name
By Tiko377 - 10-19-2012, 10:28 PM - Boxden > BX GameSpot


Sony has announced that it will be calling the successor to high definition "4K Ultra High Definition," despite apparent industry consensus on a simpler name.

Sony has announced that it will keep the 4K name for the successor to 1080p, despite the Consumer Electronics[..]ociation (CEA) deciding on the new Ultra High Definition tag.
Sony's new name for the technology will be 4K Ultra HD and follows the CEA's announcement yesterday that resolutions of 3,840 pixels horizontally and at least 2,160 would be called simply Ultra HD.
A Sony spokeswoman has contacted CNET and said the company "lauds the CEA's efforts to come up with a common language" but the company wanted to make the name more clear.
"To ensure clarity for consumers and delineate between today's and tomorrow's technology, Sony will continue to use the 4K moniker for its products and will market its future products as 4K ultra-high-definition (4K UHD)," she said.
Ultra HD or 4K is designed to be the next consumer format after 1080p -- and has four times the resolution -- and this year has seen compatible televisions launched from the likes of the $25,000 Sony XBR-84X900 and the LG 84LM9600, with more expected at CES 2013.
Will the new name "ensure clarity" or does it just make the name longer and more confusing? Let us know in the comments.

Sony wants to keep 4K name | TV and Home Theater - CNET Reviews


Latest Games Hot Topics »   share this topic »   Share this on Twitter Share this on Facebook

21 comments for "Sony wants to keep 4K name"


 10-21-2012, 10:53 AMaway - #2
UrbanGAAWD
4K sounds better than ultra high definition IMO
 10-21-2012, 10:56 AMaway - #3
sm00vb0iiw0nder
bouta cop that 25K 4K Ultra HD TV [pic]
 10-21-2012, 11:44 AMaway - #4
Prince Ace
not waisting the money on 4K.
 10-21-2012, 11:50 AMaway - #5
e G o Maniac
4K will fail. Just no reason for it at this point in time.
  1. Consumer hardware to upgrade to 4K will be way too expensive
  2. Hardware for content creators to upgrade to 4K will be way too expensive
  3. 1080p still isn't fully utilized, hell even 720p isn't in some cases

When 1080p is fully taken advantage of then we can talk, but 1080p will be sufficient for years more to come.

Last edited by e G o Maniac; 10-21-2012 at 11:53 AM..
 10-21-2012, 03:18 PMaway - #6
Vrl87
4k tvs will be a household product in 5 years.

I know this because everything in the film industry is moving to digital and shooting at 4, 5, and 6k. It's improving fast and becoming easier (cheaper) to get a hold of a product now that can shoot the same as a $100,00 camera.

I'm glad I just both an LCD that will last me 3-4 years, while the prices will eventually come down and supply and demand will kick in.
 10-21-2012, 03:40 PMaway - #7
Jesszman
People said blu-ray would fail and look at what happened. just needs to get cheaper.
 10-21-2012, 03:55 PMaway - #8
e G o Maniac
Originally Posted by Jesszman
People said blu-ray would fail and look at what happened. just needs to get cheaper.
I don't recall many people saying Blu-Ray would flat-out fail. They were saying that when HD-DVD was still competing and they believed HD-DVD would become the new standard. Either way, some form of high-capacity storage was going to prevail and flourish. It's different with TVs. It's not as simple as comparing it to the Blu-Ray market considering many different factors like entry-level pricing, equipment adoption on the part of studios, the computing hardware needed to take advantage of that resolution (remember, 1080p is not even being fully utilized for most stuff). So yea, two completely different situations.
 10-21-2012, 04:00 PMaway - #9
Y.G.
Originally Posted by Vrl87
4k tvs will be a household product in 5 years.

I know this because everything in the film industry is moving to digital and shooting at 4, 5, and 6k. It's improving fast and becoming easier (cheaper) to get a hold of a product now that can shoot the same as a $100,00 camera.

I'm glad I just both an LCD that will last me 3-4 years, while the prices will eventually come down and supply and demand will kick in.
You think that UHD TVs will drop from $25k to around $1k in 5 years? [pic]

Them !!s won't be "household" anytime soon. [pic]
 10-21-2012, 04:11 PMaway - #10
sm00vb0iiw0nder
I really wanna see the quality though....
 10-21-2012, 08:07 PMaway - #11
Vrl87
Originally Posted by Y.G.
You think that UHD TVs will drop from $25k to around $1k in 5 years? [pic]

Them !!s won't be "household" anytime soon. [pic]
Yes I do believe it will happen.
Just look at the Black Magic Camera that just came out.
It's a $3000 dollar camera that shoots at 2.5k resolution.
Right now the highest def tv projects a little above 1k of resolution line.
Just imagine 4x the quality.

You also know that $25k is priced at from the 84-inch model.
How many people do u know that own models that big?
I feel the average model a consumer buys is between 40-50 inch.
You can drop easily $5,000-8,000 from that $25k.

The thing that I feel is going to be a problem is people complaining about how high the resolution is to how our eyes normally see things. (Meaning no blur with fast action)

Peter Jackson shot The Hobbit on 5k res and screened the trailer to fans and they complained about how clear and un-cinematic it was.
 10-21-2012, 09:34 PMaway - #12
Y.G.
Originally Posted by Vrl87
Yes I do believe it will happen.
Just look at the Black Magic Camera that just came out.
It's a $3000 dollar camera that shoots at 2.5k resolution.
Right now the highest def tv projects a little above 1k of resolution line.
Just imagine 4x the quality.

You also know that $25k is priced at from the 84-inch model.
How many people do u know that own models that big?
I feel the average model a consumer buys is between 40-50 inch.
You can drop easily $5,000-8,000 from that $25k.

The thing that I feel is going to be a problem is people complaining about how high the resolution is to how our eyes normally see things. (Meaning no blur with fast action)

Peter Jackson shot The Hobbit on 5k res and screened the trailer to fans and they complained about how clear and un-cinematic it was.
[pic] Most people don't even have blu-ray players and flat screens are just now becoming a household item since they are so cheap.

You think that all of America will pitch the flat screens they already have to upgrade to UHD sets in 5 years? Thank God you don't make decisions. [pic]
 10-21-2012, 10:03 PMaway - #13
sm00vb0iiw0nder
Originally Posted by Vrl87
Yes I do believe it will happen.
Just look at the Black Magic Camera that just came out.
It's a $3000 dollar camera that shoots at 2.5k resolution.
Right now the highest def tv projects a little above 1k of resolution line.
Just imagine 4x the quality.

You also know that $25k is priced at from the 84-inch model.
How many people do u know that own models that big?
I feel the average model a consumer buys is between 40-50 inch.
You can drop easily $5,000-8,000 from that $25k.

The thing that I feel is going to be a problem is people complaining about how high the resolution is to how our eyes normally see things. (Meaning no blur with fast action)

Peter Jackson shot The Hobbit on 5k res and screened the trailer to fans and they complained about how clear and un-cinematic it was.
Link to Trailer?
 10-21-2012, 10:09 PMaway - #14
Arson
this is why you're done sony[pic]
 10-21-2012, 10:54 PMaway - #15
Tiko377
Thing is I thought OLED TV'S are gonna be the future?
 10-21-2012, 10:56 PMaway - #16
Vrl87
Originally Posted by sm00vb0iiw0nder
Link to Trailer?

There's trailers for the movie on youtube, but its shown at 24fps. Youtube doesn't allow a frame rate at 48fps, in which The Hobbit is shot. I think they're going to be showing the trailer in theaters at it's original frame rate in December.
 10-22-2012, 01:10 PMaway - #17
IronMaiden
Originally Posted by Vrl87
4k tvs will be a household product in 5 years.

I know this because everything in the film industry is moving to digital and shooting at 4, 5, and 6k. It's improving fast and becoming easier (cheaper) to get a hold of a product now that can shoot the same as a $100,00 camera.

I'm glad I just both an LCD that will last me 3-4 years, while the prices will eventually come down and supply and demand will kick in.
5 years? Don't think so.

You probably thing digital distribution will take over in 5 years as well, right?
 10-22-2012, 01:55 PMaway - #18
One Gud Cide
Originally Posted by Vrl87
Yes I do believe it will happen.
Just look at the Black Magic Camera that just came out.
It's a $3000 dollar camera that shoots at 2.5k resolution.
Right now the highest def tv projects a little above 1k of resolution line.
Just imagine 4x the quality.

You also know that $25k is priced at from the 84-inch model.
How many people do u know that own models that big?
I feel the average model a consumer buys is between 40-50 inch.
You can drop easily $5,000-8,000 from that $25k.

The thing that I feel is going to be a problem is people complaining about how high the resolution is to how our eyes normally see things. (Meaning no blur with fast action)

Peter Jackson shot The Hobbit on 5k res and screened the trailer to fans and they complained about how clear and un-cinematic it was.
[pic]

and yea, exactly, average consumer buys between 40-50 inch. that's BARELY the range to get the benefits of 1080P, it would have to be way bigger than that. that 25k one was 80" or whatever for a reason it wasn't just "hey lets make the biggest most expensive set we can" it's because it HAS to be that big.

Last edited by One Gud Cide; 10-22-2012 at 02:09 PM..
 10-22-2012, 02:02 PMaway - #19
One Gud Cide
Originally Posted by Jesszman
People said blu-ray would fail and look at what happened. just needs to get cheaper.
yea, totally the same thing.

DVD's, a format that had been standard for 11 years and had dozens of "upgrades" to the almost 30 year run format before it, with SDTV's that had been standard for way longer than that. slowly being replaced by Blu-Rays roughly 6 years ago with 1080P TV's roughly the same time frame, that hasn't phased out DVD/SDTV or even own a majority of the marketshare, is going to be replaced by a far more expensive completely new set of technology that 1. won't be fully utilized and 2. will require a MASSIVE set.

you gotta be the dumbest nicca in this section [pic] this isn't even close to the same scenario.

do you have any idea how big the screen would have to be? you need roughly 40" to properly see 1080P, you would need way larger than the largest sets available today and pretending they sell for $200 you would still require people to have the room for these big !!ing sets.


oh and to dude talking about oh peter jackson filming with it, so? you know movies have been shot at way higher resolution than even 1080p for like, 80 years right? we have absolutely never had technology that matched home video with original film. ever. so that's irrelevant.
 10-22-2012, 04:07 PMaway - #20
IronMaiden
Originally Posted by One Gud Cide
yea, totally the same thing.

DVD's, a format that had been standard for 11 years and had dozens of "upgrades" to the almost 30 year run format before it, with SDTV's that had been standard for way longer than that. slowly being replaced by Blu-Rays roughly 6 years ago with 1080P TV's roughly the same time frame, that hasn't phased out DVD/SDTV or even own a majority of the marketshare, is going to be replaced by a far more expensive completely new set of technology that 1. won't be fully utilized and 2. will require a MASSIVE set.

you gotta be the dumbest nicca in this section [pic] this isn't even close to the same scenario.

do you have any idea how big the screen would have to be? you need roughly 40" to properly see 1080P, you would need way larger than the largest sets available today and pretending they sell for $200 you would still require people to have the room for these big !!ing sets.


oh and to dude talking about oh peter jackson filming with it, so? you know movies have been shot at way higher resolution than even 1080p for like, 80 years right? we have absolutely never had technology that matched home video with original film. ever. so that's irrelevant.
[pic]
[pic]

As for 4K, it MIGHT be somewhat afforable in 5-6 years but there isn't a format that fully supports it, blu-ray just recently took off in the past couple of years and HDTVs (720p-1080p) have just became the norm with mass consumers, 4K won't replace anything anytime soon and a new format won't even come to light for many years. We might get blu-ray 4K or something that releases a long side standard blu-rays at the start and will cost more than 3D blu-rays which retail usually around $30 day 1. I am not worried about 4K, why? because 8k already exist. I won't even bother with a 4K TV till a format exist for it and that wont be any time soon.

People all high on 4K are like the kids who have been claiming that digital distribution is taking over and have been claiming that for 5 years.

Last edited by IronMaiden; 10-22-2012 at 04:11 PM..
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

 

Go Back   Boxden.Com - Stay First. Follow BX. > BX Table Of Contents > BX GameSpot
    
         
Mark Forums Read

 



Latest hot topics on fire the past 48 hrs
Video inside  May 23 - George Zimmerman’s Lawyer Reveals New Evidenc..
100 comments
Image inside  EA Exec Says Xbox One/PS4 ARE A Generation Ahead Of T..
51 comments
And Xbox One's 5th Exclusive is...Halo
83 comments
 Image(s) inside Did Fake Thuggin Strike Again? Augusta, Georgia Rapper...
New reply 1 minute ago - 109 comments - by KleanKutt100
 Image(s) inside Grand Theft Auto V Special Edition And Collector’s Edi...
New reply 42 minutes ago - 104 comments - by Pierced Talentz
 NBA Melo Has Torn Labrum, Could Be Out Three - Five Months
New reply 11 minutes ago - 87 comments - by Agentzer0oo0
 Image(s) inside Meek Mill Puts His Homie On Blast For Asking For $5000...
New reply 44 minutes ago - 280 comments - by ProfitSee
 Video inside May 22 - Man Killed In London By Duo With Machetes - M...
New reply 34 minutes ago - 80 comments - by choong
 Image(s) inside President Obama’s 1979 Prom Photos(white Blonde Chick ...
New reply 48 minutes ago - 73 comments - by cheenz
 NBA Anthony "da Brow" Davis Got Himself A Bad As...
New reply 40 minutes ago - 97 comments - by Free Trotty
 Article inside Lil Scrappy Off To Rehab, Claims Addiction To Weed
New reply 55 minutes ago - 146 comments - by TheThreadLord

Join us on Facebook. Check out the BX fan page and hit the Like button. Follow BX on Twitter to get instant hot topic alerts. Enter your email address below and receive a daily hot topic newsletter.
5,315 fans of BX | none new today 4,293 following | none new today

 


hot topic blog   »    hip-hop   |   sports   |   movies   |   games   |   news   |   wild'ish   |   gear   |   eyecandy   |   rides   |   tech

contact us   |   mobile   |   sitemap   |   privacy statement

© Boxden.com. 1998 - end of time.