Most Developers Say Xbox 720 Is The Easiest Console To Make Games For, Believe Sony Will Lose

06-03-2012, 09:51 AM

I'll have them both so it don't matter to me...just not buying on launch day ...

06-03-2012, 10:06 AM

the whole thing that makes this article stupid IMO...is the sentence where they say...

[quote]The developers also believe that Microsoft’s new console will once again lead the sales battle for the next five years,[/QUOTE}

MS didn't lead the sales battle this generation, so that alone makes this article dumb

06-03-2012, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by coolio

hopefully this doesn't just mean that its an inferior and less complicated system again that'll hold gaming back again next generation [pic]

Originally Posted by Jesszman

I agree. I feel sorry for those that cheer about this though.

Making a console that is easy to develop for doesn't necessarily mean using inferior hardware. It just means that they make it more like traditional PC architectures so they won't have to relearn an entirely new chipset/architecture. Microsoft had inferior hardware with the 360, but it wasn't what allowed them to make a developer-friendly console.

It's all about the architecture. Why do you think the PS3 took way longer to get more games? Developers had to learn the Cell and it is no walk in the park to learn a new architecture, while they were already at home with the Xbox 360 since it was more like a PC. I feel sorry for you thinking that making a developer friendly platform = making inferior hardware, jazzhands.

06-03-2012, 10:23 AM

[quote=Da Ill One;23463809]the whole thing that makes this article stupid IMO...is the sentence where they say...

The developers also believe that Microsoft’s new console will once again lead the sales battle for the next five years,[/QUOTE}

MS didn't lead the sales battle this generation, so that alone makes this article dumb

I think they only meant between the 360 and PS3. Most people only usually reference those two, and they discount the Wii because it was way cheaper so of course it'll sell more.

06-03-2012, 10:27 AM

[quote=e G o Maniac;23463948]

Originally Posted by Da Ill One

the whole thing that makes this article stupid IMO...is the sentence where they say...

I think they only meant between the 360 and PS3. Most people only usually reference those two, and they discount the Wii because it was way cheaper so of course it'll sell more.

yea it seems like they aren't even talking about the wii u

06-03-2012, 10:29 AM

[quote=e G o Maniac;23463948]

Originally Posted by Da Ill One

the whole thing that makes this article stupid IMO...is the sentence where they say...

I think they only meant between the 360 and PS3. Most people only usually reference those two, and they discount the Wii because it was way cheaper so of course it'll sell more.

True didn't think of it like that...that makes sense

[quote=Nothavingit;23463988]

Originally Posted by e G o Maniac

yea it seems like they aren't even talking about the wii u

yeah good point

06-03-2012, 12:59 PM

[pic] @ the last 3 posts havin f*cked up quotes.

06-03-2012, 01:24 PM

I swear the developers are getting lazier and lazier with each generation. They're not even using the !!ing cell this time and they still complain. Keep making your watered down games while Sony's 1st and 2nd party companies drop jaws.

06-03-2012, 02:59 PM

Sony lost [pic]

06-03-2012, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by Da Ill One

I'll have them both so it don't matter to me...just not buying on launch day ...

This.. miss me with the fanboy !! like some of you herbs. [pic]

03:57 PM

since the days of Seamus blackley M$ has said it from the beginning they build their consoles with the philosophy of Software and developer ease in mind it doesn't mean it'll be weaker the OG xbox was easier to dev for than the Ps2 but was 3 times more powerful......

I don't hold much stock in "who will win" predictions too much can happen between a consoles launch and its twilight years. The beginning of this generation you couldn't tell any of these nicca's that M$ was going to win and be dominant for this long everyone thought the ps3 was going to rule with an Iron fist last generation everyone just knew the Xbox was going to go out like the dreamcast just too much can happen in 5-7 years....

06-03-2012, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by J-R

Yea it seems like they like it more because it's easier ... I would rather fill up 1 DVD disc full instead of a full blue ray= less work

Breh, the size of the disc doesn't have anything to do with the amount of work. If anything, it lets you put more content with less compression on a disc. If I'm not mistaken, a lot of the content on blu-ray games is duplicated on disc to cut down on the read/seek times, since the blu-ray drives have slower read speeds.

Originally Posted by e G o Maniac

Making a console that is easy to develop for doesn't necessarily mean using inferior hardware. It just means that they make it more like traditional PC architectures so they won't have to relearn an entirely new chipset/architecture. Microsoft had inferior hardware with the 360, but it wasn't what allowed them to make a developer-friendly console.

It's all about the architecture. Why do you think the PS3 took way longer to get more games? Developers had to learn the Cell and it is no walk in the park to learn a new architecture, while they were already at home with the Xbox 360 since it was more like a PC. I feel sorry for you thinking that making a developer friendly platform = making inferior hardware, jazzhands.

This. There's a lot of overhead in learning the architecture. Then on top of that, how many people specialize in that architecture to optimally use it? Consider what a Bethesda dev said about that Skyrim fix: the 360 has a shared pool of memory, while the ps3's memory is split between multiple components (I forget which). Having a shared pool of memory lets you allocate it much easier than having to search for it and garbage collect among different components.

06-03-2012, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by ThePainkiller

I swear the developers are getting lazier and lazier with each generation. They're not even using the !!ing cell this time and they still complain. Keep making your watered down games while Sony's 1st and 2nd party companies drop jaws.

:sascmon: You can't be this dumb. It has nothing to do with being lazy. It saves time. Instead of wasting time learning a new architecture, programmers can be write new code for their games.

06-03-2012, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by PG-13

Sony lost [pic]

The story since 2006.

06-03-2012, 05:21 PM

Pc is better

06-03-2012, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by TheMob

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06-03-2012, 06:06 PM

console fan boys are wack...

But for people saying sony lost.. Technically if Xbox goes blu ray. doesnt sony get a percentage off the drives?

06-03-2012, 06:06 PM

everyone i know with an 360 eventually bought ps3. I dont know anyone who had ps3 firs then bought a 360.

06-03-2012, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by jasperfect

everyone i know with an 360 eventually bought ps3. I dont know anyone who had ps3 firs then bought a 360.

I do alot of people infact especially my niccas that copped it at launch....

yall niccas'll turn anything to a fanboy war lol

06-03-2012, 06:12 PM

I'm definitely going XBOX next generation… I just hope they make the controllers more sleek and smaller.

Sony just doesn't appeal to real gamers.

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