topic by Da Ill One - 01-11-2013, 08:59 AM
I didn't write this i'm just sharing it... it was written by S1LV3R_W0LF on the Official GTA Forums
Brings up some good points...for those of you waiting for the Peasant version instead of the Console Gamer Master Race platform
1 - Rockstar wrote on Steam News the in the exact same day it was announced to be out for consoles Spring 2013 (console games aren't announced there unless they are also planned for the PC platform):
As you can see it wasn't a fake account like some first said, and they even replied to the users that most of the time said they were happy because was coming to PC, and things like that and Rockstar never said otherwise.
Later this sort of comments started to appear, so why would Rockstar pissing users so much? Either cofirm it or not, but not post information on a platform that "won't get a release":
Oh and I did a search on Steam, and there were also published news from Rockstar on L.A. Noire, GTAIV, Max Payne 3 and others but not a single one on Red Dead Revolver.
2 - Rockstar made the mistake of including parts of their test files in a Social Club Update (that or some employee about to get fired did it), they made another update right after and removed the content and the folder labeled GTAV but tthey never gave any explanation:
RockstarNexus - News
3 - The leaks/ mistakes of well known websites like IGN, Gamespot, Amazon that listed the game for PC even after the platforms announcement. Some removed it others didn't, and let's be honest IGN was in R* HQ I'm sure they know a bit more then we do but the NDA/ Embargo would get them in trouble if they said something, they already got in trouble a few times for leaks like those:
Grand Theft Auto V - PC - IGN
4 - The 2 CV leaks from Rockstar employees that mentioned they were working in GTAV and was being developed for Xbox360, PS3 and PC:
5 - The few messages sent to Rockstar support where people made technical questions about hardware and specifications with them answering as if they knew what the game will need for PC, when the normal answer would be "we don't have any information about that".
6 - The EB Games Store that had PC BOX (not the final cover) but same as the consoles but with the PC label on given by Rockstar for PC Pre-Orders (someone opened a R* box too soon I bet):
7 - Store posters with GTAV artwork where you can read Xbox360/PS3 and PC.
They where the ones who posted it:
Grand Theft Auto V op PC Games
Although the link that had the image is now dead and I don't know where I've put the image I downloaded back then:
Grand Theft Auto V PC Version? Game Mania Ad - RockstarBase.com|RockstarBase.com
EDIT: The links are working again, and just by any case, I'm posting the screenshots of the website and the advertising ad of this Dutch & Belgium retailer, notice that it is set as "Hot Pre-Order" no one would do this if they weren't sure about it. Also notice that the Box Art is exactly the same of EB Games and it's not GAMES FOR WINDOWS LIVE like many claim, it's GAMES FOR WINDOWS, which is a common label for all PC Games with support for Xbox360 controller (this must be the common artwork box given by Rockstar too retailers for PC till they get the final one out):
8 - Some interventions in this same website few years ago, where Rockstar Toronto stated that they would treat the PC platform differently with next GTA and they would unleash the real capabilities of the engine that was still "too young" and they were just learning how to handle it properly.
I can't find where exactly that is, If I remember right was when they posted the first information about the coming Patch and everyone asked why no DX10 and other technical questions, but I'll leave their profile here, in case someone wanna look for it in GTAIV PC Section:
9 - There was also the leak of information of a guy in this same forum, that he said he worked for Rockstar and he knew the game was too be released back in 2010 the first time, then 2011, 2012 and then was changed again, he stated the game was being developed for consoles and PC and he gave links to some "Inside" posts mentioning GTAV and even that Rockstar had a plan for a GTA kind of Game for online, like APB.
He also mentioned some interesting facts, like the game would have 3 characters, Albert, Franklin and Trevor, the funny thing is that he mentioned this months ago, before we even knew of the existence of 3 characters (clearly the first information of a character named Alberto da Silva was real and maybe that caused a delay in the game release, because was changed to Michael), he also mentioned about the size of the map that was the same said by GameInformer and few other things, unfortunately the link was deleted or something by the Admins of this forum (that have ties with Rockstar, at least one of the Admins does), but I'm sure a lot of people had the chance to see that and maybe downloaded the pics or took screens?
The link was this and was pointed out by a member named sats:
EDIT: Found the images I had stored in my HDD (maybe they'll get deleted again, specially if they are "too hot"):
The post with the information leak about the 3 characters with accurate names, except for Albert that later was replaced with Michael (message posted in March 2012 before we even knew about multi characters):
One of the images he posted to prove he was part of Rockstar and the game was originally planned to be released in 2010, like the first rumors said and also you can see and as he stated in another thread I didn't took a screenshot it was being developed to PC since the beginning, what indicates that most likely won't be another port:
10 -Rockstar said that the Crews in Max Payne 3 could be used for GTAV, so it wouldn't be fair or made any sense if they said this and the PC players that bought the game expecting to have their friends in their crews for GTA V, be left out.
Reason why it wasn't announced yet, my guess is that Rockstar want to milk consoles first specially being this the last year of their "life" at least as the top in the market. And since there was no rumors of any agreements with SONY or Microsoft like there was with GTAIV, and specially because right after GTAIV was released both SONY and MICROSOFT said they wouldn't pay for exclusivity again because they didnt reach their objectives (sell more consoles), it's possible that the PC version is released weeks or 1 or 2 months after the consoles, maybe same like was done with Max Payne 3.
And thats it, not trying to ruin Rockstar plans or anything like it, just stating some facts to give hope to some desperate players that are waiting for the confirmation of Rockstar, specially after reading that "up for consideration article", but the fact is that there was a misinterpretation of it, the question was made for other versions including PC and Wii U and the answer was all is up for consideration, maybe if the question was directed for PC version only, the answer would be different.
I think I'm forgetting something but it's late here and I can't think right, but I'll update this when I remember or I get something more to be added.