Worst and Best Car Audio Brands?

[HiRolliN]

Since there are so many different car audio brands out there i wanna put together a list of brands for car audio newbs. The brands will be ranked in different sections:



Horrible brands - avoid these brands at all cost, there a total waste of money.


Entry level brands - good for the first time car audio enthusistest, you get a great sound for a cheap price.


High quality brands - these are more expensive that entry level, but not rediculously expensive, since you get execellent sound that will be louder/cleaner that entry level brands.


Competition brands - these brands are the mother of all brands, prices are very expensive but if you can afford it these are the brands that win sound competitions at car shows.

[Drug Dylan]

I'll hook up a list in a sec....

Blazin right now :)....

* EDIT: *

HU = Head Units
A = Amps
SW = Subs
Sp = Mids/Highs
M = Multimedia
All = Entire Line

Stay Away

American Pro (All)
Audiobank (All)
Blackmore Mobile Electronics (All)
Blitz (All)
DHD (All)
Diesel Audio (All)
Kenford (All)
Kole Audio (All)
Legacy (All)
Majestic (All)
Performance Teknique (All)
Phase Linear (All)
Pyle (All)
Pyramid (All)
Rockwood (All)
Sherwood (All)
SPL (all)
Solid Audio (All)
Sound Storm (All)
Street Edge (All)
Ultra Linear (All)
XFile Audio (All)


Entry Level

Alphasonik (All)
Alto Mobile USA (All)
Alumapro (All)
Ample Audio (All)
Audiobahn (All)
Audiopipe (All)
Audiovox (All)
Autotek "SS Series" (All)
Bazooka (All)
Blaupunkt (All)
Boss (All)
Bostwick (All)
Cadence ("All" tough decision just shy of high quality)
Cerwin Vega ("All" except Strokers which go in Comp')
Clarion (A, SW, Sp)
Clif Designs (All)
Concept (All)
Coustic (All)
Crossfire "P Series" (SW)
Crunch (All)
Cutting Edge Audio (All)
DB Drive (All)
Diablo Audio (All)
Digital Audio (All)
Dual (All)
Dub Mag Audio (All)
Elevation Audio ("All" except EX Series (SW) which go in Comp)
Emerson (All)
Harrison Labs (All)
Hifonics "Zues Series and lower" (All)
Hollywood Sound Intl. Corp (All)
Infinity (All)
Interfire (All)
JBL ("All" except ??? Series which go in Comp')
Jensen (All)
JVC (All)
Kenwood ("All" except Excelon series which go in HQ)
Kicker "Comp/Comp VR" (SW) "RS Series and under" (Sp)
Kove Audio (All)
Lanzar ("All' except Opti Drive series which go in HQ)
Lightning Audio (All)
MA Audio ("All" except larger/upper model HK Series amps which go in HQ)
Matrxx Audio (All)
MB Quart (SW)
Memphis "PR Series" (All)
MTX ("All" except 9500 Series (SW) which go in HQ)
Niche Audio (All)
Phoenix Gold (SW)
Pioneer (SW,Sp,A)
Planet Audio (All)
Polk Audio (All)
Power Acoustik (All)
Powerbase (All)
Profile (All)
Rockford Fosgate ("All" except Power Series which go in HQ)
Sanyo (All)
Scosche (All)
Sony (All)
SoundStream (All)
Swiss Audio (All)
US Acoustics (All)
Visonik (All)
Xsite (All)


High Quality

A/D/S/ (All)
Adire Audio (All)
Alpine (All)
American Bass (All)
Ascendant Audio (All)
AudioControl (All)
Audison (All)
Avionixx (All)
Boston Acoustics (All)
Brax (All)
CDT Audio (All)
Clarion (HU, M)
Critical Mass (All)
Crossfire "W Series" (SW) "VR Series" (A)
Crystal (All)
Diamond Audio (All)
Directed (All)
DLS (All)
Dynaudio (All)
Earthquake (All)
Elemental Designs (All)
Eclipse (All)
Focal (All)
Fusion (All)
Genesis (All)
Helix (All)
Hifonics "Brutus Series" (All)
Image Dynamics (All)
Incriminator Audio (All)
JL Audio ("All" except lower W series (SW) which go in Entry)
Kenwood "Excelon series" (All)
Kicker "KX/SX Series" (A) "L5/L7" (SW) "SS Series" (Sp)
Lanzar "Opti Drive" (A)
MA Audio "HK2000/HK4000" (A)
Massive Audio (All)
MB Quart (Sp)
McIntosh (All)
Memphis (MC Series) (All)
Milbert (All)
Morel (All)
MTX "9500 Series" (SW)
Nakamichi (All)
Orion (A,SW,Sp)
OZ Audio (All)
PHD Audiophile Sound System (All)
Phase Evolution (All)
Phoenix Gold (A)
Pioneer (HU,M)
Powerbass USA (All)
Precision Power (All)
QAS (All)
RE Audio ("All" except MT Series (SW) which go in Comp)
Rockford Fosgate "Power Series" (SW,A)
Seas Lotus (All)
Sinfoni (All)
Treo Engineering (All)
TRU Technology (All)
Tube Driver Blue (All)
US Amps (All)
Xtant (All)
Zapco (All)

Competition

Alpine F1 (All)
Atomic (SW,A)
Autotek "MM Series" (All)
Cerwin Vega "Stroker" (SW)
Digital Designs (All)
Elevation Audio EX Series (SW)
Hifonics "XX Series" (All)
JBL "JBL/Crown Series" (A) "G TI Series" (SW)
Kicker "Solo X" (SW)
MMats Professional Audio (All)
MTX RFL (SW)
Pioneer TS-W5000SPL (SW)
Rainbow (All)
RE Audio "MT Series" (SW)
Team RF (SW)


(Updated 9/8....More to come)

[dat_boi_tj]

you forgot some on the high quality
resonant engineering(all)
elemental designs(all)
memphis(all)
ascendant audio(subs)
orion(all)

comp
mmats pro audio
resonant engineering MT

[Drug Dylan]

you forgot some on the high quality
resonant engineering(all)
elemental designs(all)
memphis(all)
ascendant audio(subs)
orion(all)

comp
mmats pro audio
resonant engineering MT


I wont miss anyone once I make it to work, I have a dealers guide there with all makes/models etc of everything car audio related.

[samakaballer]

wait.. hold on... how r u gonna say "Kicker "Comp/Comp VR" (SW) "RS Series and under" (Sp)" the VR series is entry line,,,, now look at it ... the cvr w.e series im bout to get has dual voice coil it maxes out at 800 watts but it puts out better sound then 2 mtx subs that we listened to at the circuitcity,, now u must be smokin somethin, lol

[dat_boi_tj]

lol@ circuit city..but thats not what this thread is about....
stay away from:
amps that imiate popular name brands ex:

legacy amps(look like sony http://www.etronics.com/product.asp?stk_code=legla770&store=&catid=308)

rockwood(kenwood)

& stay away from blitz audio, unless you like "cool glowing thingys"

I CANT STRESS THIS ENOUGH....MOST CHEAP AMP BRAND ADVERTISE "MAX POWER" RATING..MAX POWER MEANS NOTHING, ITS JUST MEASURED @14.5VOLTS(which most of us dont have)AND AT A SUDDEN BURP.....SO AGAIN..MAX POWER MEANS SQUAT..always go by "rms"(subs & amps)

[Drug Dylan]

wait.. hold on... how r u gonna say "Kicker "Comp/Comp VR" (SW) "RS Series and under" (Sp)" the VR series is entry line,,,, now look at it ... the cvr w.e series im bout to get has dual voice coil it maxes out at 800 watts but it puts out better sound then 2 mtx subs that we listened to at the circuitcity,, now u must be smokin somethin, lol

lol...its entry level....thats it thats all....

Comp/Comp VR's are not better than L5 or L7 series which is listed in High Quality....so therefore it will remain in Entry Level, a MAX of 800 watts is nothing remotely close to a RMS of 600 or 1200 (L5/L7).


...and now to do what I didnt do yesterday...update more....

[greeNNugget]

I'll hook up a list in a sec....

Blazin right now :)....

* EDIT: *

HU = Head Units
A = Amps
SW = Subs
Sp = Mids/Highs
M = Multimedia
All = Entire Line

Stay Away

DHD (All)
Profile (All)



Entry Level

Alphasonik (All)
Alumapro (All)
Ample Audio (All)
Audiobahn (All)
Audiovox (All)
Autotek "SS Series" (All)
Bazooka (All)
Boss (All)
Cadence ("All" tough decision just shy of high quality)
Cerwin Vega ("All" exept Strokers which go in Comp')
Clarion (A, SW, Sp)
Crossfire "P Series" (SW)
Crunch (All)
Dual (All)
Emerson (All)
Hifonics "Zues Series and lower" (All)
Infinity (All)
JBL ("All" exept ??? Series which go in Comp')
Jensen (All)
JVC (All)
Kenwood ("All" exept Excelon series which go in HQ)
Kicker "Comp/Comp VR" (SW) "RS Series and under" (Sp)
Lanzar ("All' exept Opti Drive series which go in HQ)
Lightning (All)
MA Audio ("All" exept larger/upper model HK Series amps which go in HQ)
MB Quart (SW)
Phoenix Gold (SW)
Pioneer (SW,Sp,A)
Polk Audio (All)
Rockford Fosgate ("All" exept Power Series which go in HQ)
Sony (All)
SoundStream (All)
Visonik (All)


High Quality

A/D/S/ (All)
Alpine (All)
AudioControl (All)
Avionixx (All)
Boston Acoustics (All)
CDT Audio (All)
Clarion (HU, M)
Crossfire "W Series" (SW) "VR Series" (A)
Crystal (All)
Diamond Audio (All)
Directed (All)
Dynaudio (All)
Earthquake (All)
Eclipse (All)
Focal (All)
Hifonics "Brutus Series" (All)
Image Dynamics (All)
JL Audio ("All" exept lower W series (SW)
Kenwood "Excelon series" (All)
Kicker "KX/SX Series" (A) "L5/L7" (SW) "SS Series" (Sp)
Lanzar "Opti Drive" (A)
MA Audio "HK2000/HK4000" (A)
MB Quart (Sp)
Orion (A,SW,Sp)
Phoenix Gold (A)
Pioneer (HU,M)
Precision Power (All)
Rockford Fosgate "Power Series" (SW,A)

Competition

Alpine F1 (All)
Atomic (SW,A)
Autotek "MM Series" (All)
Cerwin Vega "Stroker" (SW)
Hifonics "XX Series" (All)
JBL "??? Series" (All)
Kicker "Solo X" (SW)
Team RF (SW)



(Im not even close to finished, but this is what I have for right now, ill update more at work tomorrow.)


So can someone please explain this a bit better, im a car audio noob and i'm about to start looking for my first system. Is this a list of the brands i should or shouldnt be looking out for?? cos from the first post it says its gonna be a list of horrible brands >>
'since there are so many different car audio brands out there i wanna put together a list of brands thats first time car audio newbs can avoid at all cost.'


'now my main goal is to inform new car audio peeps of horrible brands to not spend money on such as pyramid, rockwood ect. '

sorry i might just be smokin a little bit too much :blunt: :blunt:

[Drug Dylan]

Anything listed from Entry Level thru Comp you'll be safe....Since you said your a CA Noob i'd stick with Entry level especially since its a lil less strain on the pockets.

[PhybaOptikz]

You forgot the Nakamichi headunits. Serious sh*t man, they look like standard car stereos but they'r definately not. The quality is Crazy, probably, if not the best.

ez..

[PhybaOptikz]

Prices are mad ridiculous tho. Here in Uk they start at £500 going up.^^^^

[HiRolliN]

So can someone please explain this a bit better, im a car audio noob and i'm about to start looking for my first system. Is this a list of the brands i should or shouldnt be looking out for?? cos from the first post it says its gonna be a list of horrible brands >>


it has now turned into a list of horrible, entry, high quality, and competition brands.

[explicit6486]

it has now turned into a list of horrible, entry, high quality, and competition brands.

lol @ adire audio isn't in the competition category -
they set world records boi...
you can't just lump all of one car audio company in one category.

[Drug Dylan]

lol @ adire audio isn't in the competition category -
they set world records boi...
you can't just lump all of one car audio company in one category.

Adire is good stuff dont get me wrong, thats why I put it in High Quality, it is far from a "competition" brand though. Scottie Johnson is the only person to have set a record with Adire subs (worth mentioning), and they werent the "normal" pick up and buy type of Brahmas that he was using when he did it. Besides Dan (Wiggins) would say it himself that Adire is not a "competition" brand, im sure he would much rather be listed in High Quality.

[dat_boi_tj]

high quality:
Soundsplinter

btw dylan...if youre gonna put the mt's in the comp section, i think the brahmas should go too

[Drug Dylan]

high quality:
Soundsplinter

btw dylan...if youre gonna put the mt's in the comp section, i think the brahmas should go too

MT's own Brahmas in every which kind of way......

Brahma EXTREMES are what Scottie used to compete with, he would not be able to use "everyday" Brahmas, which are barely rated over 1000 watts RMS.

Extremes are not readily available for general public purchases so this is why I dont have Extreme's even listed. He is one of few who own these subs.

[dat_boi_tj]

just because the mts "own" the brahmas dont mean that they arent comp subs...lets be honest...most people that purchase more than 1 of them arent looking for a daily driver

[Drug Dylan]

just because the mts "own" the brahmas dont mean that they arent comp subs...lets be honest...most people that purchase more than 1 of them arent looking for a daily driver

Going off your bolded statement, hell all subs could be considered comp subs. Its a fact that more subs that I have listed in Entry Level and High Quality are used in competition more than "Comp" subs...simply because people dont know about or cant afford these "Comp" subs.

Anything sub I have in the "Comp" section is truly an SPL sub....for instance the MT that we are already talking about this sub can take thousands upon thousands of watts for an extended period of time. I have a teammate running 20,000 watts (2 Hifonics Maxximus' 10K watt amps) to 1 RE MT 18, now since you want to classify the Brahma as a "comp" sub, do you think the Brahma 15 (since it doesnt come in 18) with a RMS of 600 watts can withstand 20K watts?....I dont think so, not for even 1 burp, and this is what seperates it from a true "comp" sub

[dat_boi_tj]

the mmats jugg cant even handle 20k its only 1400 & it will still murder your average comp sub in competiton, which proves that you dont need to be able to handle billions of watts to acieve spl king status...but if a guy came to me and asked me if he should go into comp w/ his 15" adire id say HELL YES!!..but thats just me...
btw, you forgot the pioneer TS-W5000SPL..how could you forget? this baby shattered the record

[lllusion]

Profile, its better then that. It pushes what it says!

Profile is an entry amplifiar. i have one and it bangs.

[lawn_korn47]

eclipse decks are some of the best, i just bought a CD5444. Ill post pictures when i install in.

[dat_boi_tj]

Profile, its better then that. It pushes what it says!

Profile is an entry amplifiar. i have one and it bangs.

yea i agree..profile may not put out what it says..but its a great entry level brand(amps)..definately not on the same level as pyramid or legacy

[bassfiend316]

i would move audiobahn out of the entry level category. when i think entry level i think under $200 for a decent model...but whatever...and some of these are entry level as far as spl, but great for SQ



anyways, add kole audio to the stay away list.

[Drug Dylan]

i'll budge on profile, its a lil better than "stay away" but only on the higher end profile stuff, Kole Audio added as well.

[dat_boi_tj]

i would move audiobahn out of the entry level category. when i think entry level i think under $200 for a decent model...but whatever...and some of these are entry level as far as spl, but great for SQ



anyways, add kole audio to the stay away list.
the only thing that audiobahn makes thats worth buying is the immortal/eternal series subs

[eNcrypTioN]

JL audio def should have made competition... everything about jl is better then kicker and alpine hands down...

[dat_boi_tj]

spl
solo x > W7
JL doesnt even have a competition line like kicker does

[Drug Dylan]

JL audio def should have made competition... everything about jl is better then kicker and alpine hands down...

lmao @ JL Audio being in comp catagory...your definetly a "fan", brainwashing is an ugly thing.

[dat_boi_tj]

ay dylan..how could how forget these speakers
MTX RFL
Jackhammer (even tho we all know that is nostly a pile of just, its still made for comp)

[stayfly21]

rockford fosgate speakers are the best for HQ speakers when you get there amp also, which is label the best performing amp in the audio world.

[Drug Dylan]

ay dylan..how could how forget these speakers
MTX RFL
Jackhammer (even tho we all know that is nostly a pile of just, its still made for comp)


I did forget about the RFL's only because they were pure ass.....added them to the comp catagory as these subs could not play music AT ALL, got decently loud for SPL though. Didnt add the Jackhammer as it is a marketing gimmick used by MTX and is not available for retail sale (not sure if it ever will be, definetly not practical).

[nexteltagger1]

What about Bostwick

[beejay14]

Im looking for some good ideas for my system, I wanna nice set up, not just the subs in a sh*t box imn my trunk.
post pics of your systems so i can get i deas thx.

[Cutty Olds]

good info ya'll ...I been looking for a good quality brand besides JL....Man this helps a brotha out alot...I couldn't get any other answer from people on how JL's are the sh*t and Rockfords are over rated and Memphis audio is just okay..thanks!

[RareSound]

Head unit has to be an Alpine. I never buy anything else.

[YoungerHov]

lmao @ JL Audio being in comp catagory...your definetly a "fan", brainwashing is an ugly thing.

I've been out of the audio game for a minute... I have a GS300 and want to add a 12" sub for SQ... Tight, responsive, and definite power... I've always been told IDmax or w7, what would you guys recommend? I don't have an amp yet, so I'm open to suggestions. Wanna spend no more than $2500 for setup...

[Drug Dylan]

I've been out of the audio game for a minute... I have a GS300 and want to add a 12" sub for SQ... Tight, responsive, and definite power... I've always been told IDmax or w7, what would you guys recommend? I don't have an amp yet, so I'm open to suggestions. Wanna spend no more than $2500 for setup...


IDMax's are the sh*t....cant say anything bad about them as this is the sub I used to break a record or two back in 2003. Another comparable sub would be RE's XXX, built along the same lines as the IDMax, it is meant to play music loud while still maintaining accuracy.

[dat_boi_tj]

I've been out of the audio game for a minute... I have a GS300 and want to add a 12" sub for SQ... Tight, responsive, and definite power... I've always been told IDmax or w7, what would you guys recommend? I don't have an amp yet, so I'm open to suggestions. Wanna spend no more than $2500 for setup...

idmax,brahma,xxx,avalanche

[Kstate]

Have you ever heard of a brand SPL? Would this be one of those brands to stay away from?

[Drug Dylan]

Have you ever heard of a brand SPL? Would this be one of those brands to stay away from?

You got it....stay away

Thought I had this on the list...lemme check.

[s1ttin sidewayz]

MA Audio is good.

[dat_boi_tj]

where would "phase linear" go?.........


nevermind

[jdm_2fast4u]

Prices are crazy here too; i got 2 Rockforfd Punch P2002 2 Chan amps and each costed me 299 + 15% tax but they kick harddd with my two Rockford Fosgate Punch2 12" subs. expensive, but worth the quality. I got them running in a 1991 Acura Integra LS-S hatch so the quality sounds much better than a coupe or sedan.

[dedubb]

WHERE were you when i as buying my system? ?Drug Dylan?

[Drug Dylan]

WHERE were you when i as buying my system? ?Drug Dylan?


Haha.....im here now fam

Save up your loot then come holla at me

[GhosT]

man MA Audio is the same sh*t is audiobahn, just beginner bullsh*t
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GhosT

[Drug Dylan]

man MA Audio is the same sh*t is audiobahn, just beginner bullsh*t
one
GhosT

Thats where it is...in entry level with Audiobahn

[GhosT]

JL audio def should have made competition... everything about jl is better then kicker and alpine hands down...
man i'm even a huge fan of JL but i wont say they are spl comp material, sq comp material yes witht he right application, btu there are no comp lines on JL products list


rockford fosgate speakers are the best for HQ speakers when you get there amp also, which is label the best performing amp in the audio world.


hahahahaha, thats funny sh*t there is much better out there than fosgate, look at focal, diamond audio, cdt, rainbow, dynaudio, any of those brands will out do fosgate with a good amp. now if you want some good hq amps look into audison, or crossfire, crossfire has nice solid amps, more than what i can say for fosgate
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GhosT

[defjamsoulja]

yo i dunno if y'll know but vibe have released a new company named fli-trap,they are a offset company of vibe designed under a different name and design yet cheaper and just as good,check em out if u can,down here in tha uk they aint bad as a starter.PROP ME N I'LL PROP U BACK

[shotta84]

man, i just brought a pair of 12" Dual subs off ebay for $20. As long as they work im good........lol. I'll upgrade to all that expensive sh*t later

[DaWhiteBoy]

I Got Powe Aqustics In My Ride And sh*ts Hit HARD..

[Falcon_no7]

i thought u just posted your car and u had JL's in it.......

[9thward]

wooooo

[DJ White Robb]

I say another one to stay away from is roadmaster thay sell them at wal*mart (not hatin on wal*mart) but roadmaster car audio sucks.

[daykel]

Man almost anything works... stay away from Walmart, even named brand Walmart ( you know wha I mean ) Good brands... JL, Rockford Fosgate, and Infintiy... dem boys be whammin Mah all time fav's MTX... they had a series of speakers, the 7000, damn dem boys had this town looking at a little black Civic
:blunt:

[kurtd225]

Competition
jl audio W7
old scholl punch 800.2 power an the new
P3000

[GhosT]

Competition
jl audio W7
old scholl punch 800.2 power an the new
P3000
mand the w7's are NOT competition, they are awsome but not comp material
i know because i have 1
one
GhosT

[DJ White Robb]

i think JL Audio is the tightest

[laxzation]

I'm a fosgate fan Everything I have own was fosgate. I'v tried all types of fosgate stuff and the more money you spend the better sound you get.
Now there one sub thats is just crazy and thats that armagden something like that I have heard two of those in a lac trunk and it is crazy

[BurninLz]

got 2 12'' kicker solo baric L5's


sh*tbangs

[16jan87]

you all forgot the best competition sub which costs a mere 6000 dollars, the MTX Jackhammer 22" is the BEAST.

[bigg_boi52]

yo i have 2 square audiopipe 15 sw they str8 but i blew them...i had a 2 ohm 2000 watt 4 channel audio pipe amp pushin them...dont get me wrong they bumped then i got them bridged down thats when they blew..but you get what you pay for..the whole set up only cost me 400...im lookin to get a new system for my mitsubishi endeavor 05..i want to drop at least 600-1000 on it cuz...someone give me some ideas or if you know something for the low holla at yo boi

[GhosT]

you all forgot the best competition sub which costs a mere 6000 dollars, the MTX Jackhammer 22" is the BEAST.
the jackhammer is bullsh*t
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GhosT

[mistamagic]

Yo jus so u know some of those name brands that u said we should stay away from surprise u...I had a set of pyramid subs dat i got for free from a friend and wit the right amp n power my system was knockin as loud as his brothers rockford he2's so be careful wit em.... sometimes u gotta hear em to believe it i know i sell car audio

[mistamagic]

jackhammer is azz.. sorry too say. all the size and only 157 db the single w7 from jl can push out 170 at minimum power. dats really sad.. If u lookin for a nice soundin system check out the Alpine R series or their big guy now the alpine TYPE X. Now dats power i seen it shatter car windows so trust me.

[Drug Dylan]

jackhammer is azz.. sorry too say. all the size and only 157 db the single w7 from jl can push out 170 at minimum power. dats really sad.. If u lookin for a nice soundin system check out the Alpine R series or their big guy now the alpine TYPE X. Now dats power i seen it shatter car windows so trust me.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

False.....single W7 is not coming anywhere near a 170....dont believe the hype...even in an Extreme type set up, the cone would fold before it reached those type of levels. Not bashing JL, just stating facts.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

@ Alpine's shattering windows....Never happened



....kids these days....:smh:

[GhosT]

mistamagic 1st off pyramid SUCKS, there is no way they will last or sound good. they might be loud but they will fry and sound like sh*t. they are made very poorly, very bottom of the line
2nd, a single w7 will never come even close to 170db, i know i have 10w7 and there's no way i'm hittin close to that. even a single 13w7 wont come close to that. before you speak do some research. even 4 15w3's were only hitting about 150 something there is no POSSIBLY way a single w7 will hti what you claim
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GhosT

[mistamagic]

yo ghost and drug dylan get the stick up azzes out cause dam seriously every post they gotta bash on people. yo were u guys made fun of and now u need to get out the anger? calm ya asses im goin by fucin stats n forums. crawl outta ya little anger mode n calm down..

[GhosT]

^ nothing you've said in this section is true, wherever your getting your info is a bullsh*t place. you learn from trial and error and experience, you claim to have 3 yrs of experience, i have about 9yrs and drug dylan competes, you'll never see anyone competing with pyramid, if they are they wont place anywhere close to top 10. get your sh*t straight before you come in here telling us total bullsh*t. i still wont forget the 274 db story, thats classic, fu*king halarious that anyone would beleive that sh*t
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GhosT

[Drug Dylan]

Haha....if he was anywhere near 274 db he wouldnt be able to type the BS he posted, he'd be dead.

No one is bashing anything, we are just disproving your stories, I guess if you feel the need to exagerate so be it...just make it a lil more believeable. As Ghost said, I compete and have been competing since 95' so if someone hit 170+ with a single JL W7 i'd know about it. Also the BS with the shattering windows, with Alpines, in a trunk....BE FOR REAL....it takes a lot more than your everyday setup to start breaking windows.

So before you got talkin about people with sticks up their asses know who you are in the company of and keep the BS to a minimum, cuz I WILL call you on it.

[mistamagic]

yes sir respect is shown to u ghost n dylan u guys are the experience in here.... umm but yea tone it down a notch. it wouldn't hurt. i already corrected the bs bout the 274 iight n yea ummm try puttin a 3 alpine type x subs bridged down to 1 ohm a peice each runnin of zeus series amps in a bubble back civic n turn it up.. tell me what happens. like i always say people's is crazy wen pushed to it. n yea i will disregard all the other posts and refer to u guys since u know alot but damn its a post site chill. by the way ghost ya whips sounds nice im sittin a '02 345xi on 19s wit 1 15" mmat juggernaut in the trunk. tell me how that sounds?

[GhosT]

i do apolagize for being so harsh but you have to understand how many fu*kheads come in here thinking they know everything about car audio and they start saying sh*t like " pyramid rocks thats competition equipment" right off the bat when the experienced people in this forum here these new people say some sh*t like that we call them out and prove them wrong. but anyways, thanks for the complement on my ride, i just decided about 20 min ago i'm upgrading to another jl 10w7, another 500/1 and a new custom slot proted box, so i'll be hitting even harder withing abotu 2 months or so. also sounds like you got a fairly nice ride, but whatcha got up front?
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[zbreakz]

infinity gold audio is pretty sick.. specially when its just stock in a car.. they got some good setuplines and produce some pretty craze products(meanin they got the good for being stock... but upgrades are good too)

[MarkVito]

props

[mistamagic]

its peace between all n ghost im usin idva310 alpine touchscreen dvd up front. ur gonna kill it wit that second w7 enjoy it

[$hArP]

its peace between all n ghost im usin idva310 alpine touchscreen dvd up front. ur gonna kill it wit that second w7 enjoy it

YO POST SOME PICS OF THAT HEADUNIT LIKE TOO SEE IT........I WANT ONE BUT DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WORTH IT...............:blunt:

[Dosia]

i believe nate munsen broke 170 with a single 10 by DD and 4 viper 2500d amps. pretty impressive.

[Drug Dylan]

i believe nate munsen broke 170 with a single 10 by DD and 4 viper 2500d amps. pretty impressive.

169 and some change....but he was pretty close. Also "Extreme" car setups and daily drivers are two totally different animals.

http://www.carsound.com/NewsFotos/JUNE_02/06_12_DEI_Nathan.jpg

^^^ His car

[Dosia]

^ yeh of course they are. i think i read that he broke the 170 mark eventually (could be wrong just what i read on a few CA forums what a few years ago..?).

i dont even play my subs loud anymore.. value my hearing. :lol:

[Drug Dylan]

Oh yea...he was 170+ just not with the mentioned setup....(174.8 was his high at 03' DB Drag Finals...did it with a Kicker SoloX 18) I dont think he has competed since then.

Nate's a beast...pretty cool guy too

[Dosia]

^ yeh your correct. ive been out of the car audio funk for quite some time. havnt been to a comp for like 2 years now or something.

[kwhitake002]

the best is what i got

Audiobahn
Sony
Pioneer
Jvc
That's all You Need

[Drug Dylan]

the best is what i got

Audiobahn
Sony
Pioneer
Jvc
That's all You Need

Step your car audio knowledge up a bit, that may be the best you've "heard" but definetly is not the best. Hit up some car shows in your area, im sure that will open your eyes some.

[SKINNI]

the best is what i got

Audiobahn
Sony
Pioneer
Jvc
That's all You Need
I DONT KNOW OF ANYTHING JVC MAKES THAT I CONSIDER HIGH QUALITY. THE OTHER BRANDS HAVE THIER CERTAIN PRODUCTS ARE GOOD AND SOME NOT SO GOOD. TRUST THAT THERE ARE BETTER BRANDS THAN ALL OF THEM THOUGH FOR EVERY PRODUCT EACH ONE OF THOSE COMPANIES MAKE. NONE OF THEM ARE THE BEST AT ANY SINGLE PRODUCT

[GhosT]

the best is what i got

Audiobahn
Sony
Pioneer
Jvc
That's all You Need
no offense but thats a pretty ignorant comment, there are brands that are better than all of those brands. there is no way if you were knowledged in mobile electronics you'd say those are the "BEST". You need to quit looking at the mainstream sh*t, If you knew more than what you see on pimp my ride and what you see and stores liek best buy then you'd feel the same way as dylan, skinni and i feel. Not even close to top of the line.
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[K.B.]

thanks for all tha info guys been lookin to upgrade my system for a while, well im lookin to get a better amp.......

[myfuelpumpsucks]

So can someone please explain this a bit better, im a car audio noob and i'm about to start looking for my first system. Is this a list of the brands i should or shouldnt be looking out for?? cos from the first post it says its gonna be a list of horrible brands >>


sorry i might just be smokin a little bit too much :blunt: :blunt:

the ones listed are organized in order of quality...definitely go for the best if you can swang the bank

[Armageddon2k7]

Step your car audio knowledge up a bit, that may be the best you've "heard" but definetly is not the best. Hit up some car shows in your area, im sure that will open your eyes some.

thank you for tellin him nicely, because that's next to the worst if anything. like he said, do some searching on the net and around car audio shops (although they are terrible some times).

[Kentuckyguy]

I think Alpine makes the best head units, JL makes the best subs, and kicker makes the best amps!

[skreech_1985]

i dont reccomend kickers their really whack i blew 4 out quick

[GhosT]

I think Alpine makes the best head units, JL makes the best subs, and kicker makes the best amps!
no offense but thats a statement from somone who doesn't know that much, jl has great subs, but far from the best, kicker makes great amps but far from teh best
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[SKINNI]

I Think People Get It Confused. Its Easy To Say What U Like Best But Dont Be Soo Quick To Declare What Is Best. Especially When Talkin About Brands That Can Be Bought Off The Shelf Of Any Mega Chain Store. Those Places Tend To Not Have The Top Of The Line Stuff (i.e. Best Buy, Circut City, Ect. Really Dont Cater To Professionally Competing Car Audiophiles). They Might Have Some Nice Stuff But Its Far From "the Best Out There". Most Of The Best U Wont Even Find On The Shelves Of A Dedicated Car Audio Shop. Only Special Order For Lack Of The Market. How Many F 1' S Are Sold On Average Vs. Plain Jane Pioneer Decks.

[Drug Dylan]

I Think People Get It Confused. Its Easy To Say What U Like Best But Dont Be Soo Quick To Declare What Is Best. Especially When Talkin About Brands That Can Be Bought Off The Shelf Of Any Mega Chain Store. Those Places Tend To Not Have The Top Of The Line Stuff (i.e. Best Buy, Circut City, Ect. Really Dont Cater To Professionally Competing Car Audiophiles). They Might Have Some Nice Stuff But Its Far From "the Best Out There". Most Of The Best U Wont Even Find On The Shelves Of A Dedicated Car Audio Shop. Only Special Order For Lack Of The Market. How Many F 1' S Are Sold On Average Vs. Plain Jane Pioneer Decks.

:applause:

[GhosT]

I Think People Get It Confused. Its Easy To Say What U Like Best But Dont Be Soo Quick To Declare What Is Best. Especially When Talkin About Brands That Can Be Bought Off The Shelf Of Any Mega Chain Store. Those Places Tend To Not Have The Top Of The Line Stuff (i.e. Best Buy, Circut City, Ect. Really Dont Cater To Professionally Competing Car Audiophiles). They Might Have Some Nice Stuff But Its Far From "the Best Out There". Most Of The Best U Wont Even Find On The Shelves Of A Dedicated Car Audio Shop. Only Special Order For Lack Of The Market. How Many F 1' S Are Sold On Average Vs. Plain Jane Pioneer Decks.
finally someone explained it like it should have been explained, i was trying to have that point come across but you explained it much better

example, for the longest time a quite a few years back i was conviced JL was the best, they were top notch, but i didn't know of than many competition brands. JL definately held their own, i think they had a bigger market for comps, before everybody and their mother started buying em. Personally JL is MY favorite brand, i've had other JL sh*t before and never really had problems, lasted a long time, great warranty, great sound, BUT, theres always a BUT, i have come to realize a few years ago that they are far from the the best, they have great equipment, but not for the prices. I wll probably still buy JL products but i have opened up and i know of better brands that i would rather use

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[123456]

I wll probably still buy JL products but i have opened up and i know of better brands that i would rather use

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which brands would those be to you?

im guessing brands like Resonant Engineering and Adire Audio?

[GhosT]

which brands would those be to you?

im guessing brands like Resonant Engineering and Adire Audio?
i would buy RE, Adire, DD, and ED for sure
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[SKINNI]

Well Im Finally About To Do The System In The New Magnum Next Week. Running An 06 Model 15" L7 With A Hifonics 1605 (1600 Watts Rms @ 1 Ohm), Upgrading The Boston Acoustic Premium Setup To Thier Pro Series. Running The 6400 On Them. Im Still Torn On My Headunit Though. I Have The Pioneer Avh-6600 Dvd. Nice Deck But Wanting Something With A 7 Inch Monitor So Maybe Ill Order Somethin New.

Almost Bought A W7 13 Today For $475 From A Pawn Shop But Had To Fight The Temptation.

[titebuoy]

i would buy RE, Adire, DD, and ED for sure
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yeah these are some of the best brands, but some of their items are hard to find and to purchase(newer Products). thats probably why people like JL and Kicker, cuz u can buy them anywhere.

[tim08]

the two best things to put together is an alpine head unit with the jl audio amps and sub especially the the w7, its sumtin serious oh and the kicker solo x is the sh*t

[GhosT]

the two best things to put together is an alpine head unit with the jl audio amps and sub especially the the w7, its sumtin serious oh and the kicker solo x is the sh*t
have you read anything in this thread, jl is awsome but far from the best, i'm sorry but thats a pretty ignorant comment, i know of different a deck, and and sub setup that'll blow that away
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[dat_boi_tj]

lucky 100

[Armageddon2k7]

Def dont forget Mass Destruction ;-)

[DiGnIFieD]

You cant go wrong with a CERWIN VEGA sub......................!

[GhosT]

You cant go wrong with a CERWIN VEGA sub......................!
LOL, thats some funny sh*t, fu*k cerwin vega. the stroker's are monsters but other than those cerwin is pretty low level compared to so many other brands out there
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[Devil_666]

rockford fosgate>>>>>ur sub

[GhosT]

rockford fosgate>>>>>ur sub
HAHAHAHAHAHA, you don't know sh*t
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[-BLAZE-]

What up wit it Ghost?? I know you like that W7...my dude had 3 12W7's in an Eddie Bauer Expedition. $hit pounded! I just ordered 2 Kicker 12L7's...hope they bang. Holla!

[**P$C**]

anything pyle...= pile of sh*t

avoid sony amps at all costs........cd player wise they are nice but as fare as amps and speakers they are sh*t

dual.............looks good......plays sh*tty and doesnt last at all, i had to replace two of my dual cd players......the channels burned in one and the other was the power wire wasnt included...avoid at all costs...just buy a sony, pioneer , kenwood cd player...

kenwood eq's and pioneer cd players have always been my sh*t

[-BLAZE-]

anything pyle...= pile of sh*t


You got that right...:lol: Yeah I got a Pioneer 7600 Deck. It's straight...get's the job done.

[GhosT]

sorry but sony deck suck, there are much better decks out there for the same price
yeah i love my w7 but i kinda wish i had some other sh*t. i would like 2 12" SX's from RE and 2 hifonics amps but i bought this before i really heard much about RE
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[igneous452]

Mtx What!!!

[lastdaze]

Alpine Is Good Becuase They Provide Products At Each Level, Type E And S Are Lower End, Then Type R And Type X Are The Higher End, Competition Level Stuff. They Offer Something For Everybody And I Have Never Had Problems With My Alpine Equipment.

[GhosT]

^ so do a lot of brands
jl does
mtx does
RE does
Elemental designs has 2 different models of sh*t
eclipse does
adire does
digital designs does

it's not just alpine that offers low level, mid level and high level equipment
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[phillyraf]

you have jensen as entry level i think not. anything you can buy from the local pep-boys is b/s stay away from jensen and dual. dual has one onice radio thats motorized but is still a DUAL!

[Drug Dylan]

you have jensen as entry level i think not. anything you can buy from the local pep-boys is b/s stay away from jensen and dual. dual has one onice radio thats motorized but is still a DUAL!

I dont condone using either but its a step up from the stay away list thats for sure.

[Sh0wty]

Memphis Audio... Simply Great..

[SKINNI]

Memphis Audio... Simply Great..
LOVE EM BUT BURNED UP 4 DIFFERENT MEMPHIS AMPS

[Sh0wty]

LOVE EM BUT BURNED UP 4 DIFFERENT MEMPHIS AMPS

How the hell did you do that? I love the warranty on my memphis, so i dont worry..

[SKINNI]

How the hell did you do that? I love the warranty on my memphis, so i dont worry..
OH THE WARRANTY IS GREAT. IT WAS HONORED EVERYTIME WITH NO ISSUES. IT ONLY COST ME THE SHIPPING ($20-$25). I BURNED MY FIRST BELLE UP ON THE SUB CHANNEL. ONLY RAN IT AT 1 OHM WITH 2 CROSSFLOW FANS ON EACH END. HAD IT MOUNTED ON STUDS SO THE AMP DIDNT SIT FLAT ON THE AMP RACK (AIR COULD FLOW UNDER IT TO HELP COOLING). THEY SENT ME A BRAND NEW BELLE AND THE 4 CHANNEL BURNED UP IN IT AFTER ABOUT A YEAR. I SAID SCREW IT AND RAN MIDS & HIGHS OFF THE BRAIN FOR MY HEAD UNIT. I ALSO FRIED 2 MEMPHIS 1100D' S (THE SAME SUB CHANNEL IN THE BELLE).

THEY PUT OUT SOLID POWER (AND IM FROM MEMPHIS) BUT THEY DIE IN EXTREME HEAT (I LIVE IN LOUISIANA)

[Sh0wty]

Hmmm.. I live in Miami. What should I do to prevent this?

[jonathan_marcus]

:banghead: what is the best speakers out there?
subwoofers?
and amps?

[GhosT]

^ no offense but i', sick of people asking this, there is NO best, PERIOD. everybrand has it's pros and cons, you just have to find a brand you like. we can suggest better brand but there still is no best
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[dat_boi_tj]

the best brand is whatever i have in my car at the current time:blunt:

[GhosT]

to a point that is very correct. if your satisfied with what you have thats good, but all we can tell you is to look at the list in this thread and try to find something in in your budget
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[d12dblock]

Best brand of subwoofers are Kickers, but for the amps is anything with D-class

[GhosT]

Best brand of subwoofers are Kickers, but for the amps is anything with D-class
i'm sorry but your a fu*king idiot, there are much better subs than kickers, anything that is sold at a retail shop like best buy and circuit city can never be considered the best, RE will smash kicker anyday. thats just one example
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[samsin420]

Yea,that pretty much raps that up for all the brands. I myself got a bd1000 watt Rockford Power amp. The older one that's like grey lookin. Small as heck but gives out some sho fire power. I got it pushin 4 old rockford H E's. Sounds luvly in my Impala.

[Drug Dylan]

Yea,that pretty much raps that up for all the brands. I myself got a bd1000 watt Rockford Power amp. The older one that's like grey lookin. Small as heck but gives out some sho fire power. I got it pushin 4 old rockford H E's. Sounds luvly in my Impala.

I used to have some HE's....I remember those days....

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/212000-212999/212367_3_full.jpg

[samsin420]

I used to have some HE's....I remember those days....

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/212000-212999/212367_3_full.jpg


Dammmmmm homie! You did have dem HE's! That's real ish right thur. A man of quality. What ended up happenin to them? And was they single 8 ohm?

[Styl3s]

Legacy amps are not bad, i had a 1600w legacy pushing 2 jl w6's while i was saving up for a jl 1000 and they hit almost just as hard on that legacy as they did with the jl, i actually wish i didnt waste all that money on the jl amp

[Styl3s]

i'm sorry but your a fu*king idiot, there are much better subs than kickers, anything that is sold at a retail shop like best buy and circuit city can never be considered the best, RE will smash kicker anyday. thats just one example
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Logic MDX12's crush kicker, those are like 70 a pop :lol:

[Drug Dylan]

Dammmmmm homie! You did have dem HE's! That's real ish right thur. A man of quality. What ended up happenin to them? And was they single 8 ohm?

Nah they were dual 4 ohm....had two directed 1100D's running them in that pic. Sold em to one of my homies and changed to 2 15's and got a "lil" louder.:D

[dat_boi_tj]

where would "powerbass" go

[DOEBOI]

what about the Memphis M3Mojo series and the LVS series what catagory are those in cause memphis has said that they put 4 of their 4000 watt amps on a single M3Mojo15 Quad 1ohm and the Lvs series are supposed to be some of the loudest subs around

[$hArP]

sony is the worst for subs and mid/highs interior speakers i know that....:lol:

[DOEBOI]

i think you fogot to put Hifonics "Goliath Series" sub which is their SPl competition sub

[Infamous_01]

I was always thold that Cerwin Vega made amazing, good quailty subs but im not gettin into comp or n e of that just high quality...guess not

Anyway i have 2 Hifonics 10" ZEUS subs(8 ohms) that are dual voice coil n i think an rms of 500 watt each but not sure if thats the peak...ive sent 280 watts to it n it hasnt blown which is why i think that is the RMS rating n not the Peak.

What would be a good amp to power these subs along wit the right box. I currently have them in a bandpass which i herd sucks ass so wut would u uys reccomend...

Also i was told by sumone that their son was sellin 2 cerwin vega subs in perfect condition but he wasnt sure if these were 10's or 12's...Assuming they were 10's would cerwin vega outdo hifonics ZEUZ? Caus ei have to admit those ZEUZ pound for a entry level sub

[BklynzYoung J]

Xplod

[rawDawg]

where do buy RE at?

[Drumatic50]

What about audiobahn? i didnt check pages 3 and 4, too lazy but isnt audiobahn decent atleast entry level?

[yungdav18]

wow...how is that first dude bout to put audiobahn all under entry level? n then have alpine high performance...dogg some alpine sh*t is garbage...i gotta audiobahn 10" in my trunk that would pound the fu*k outta 12" Alpine Type X

[Str8 outta Cuse]

wow...how is that first dude bout to put audiobahn all under entry level? n then have alpine high performance...dogg some alpine sh*t is garbage...i gotta audiobahn 10" in my trunk that would pound the fu*k outta 12" Alpine Type X


i agree with that.. how the fu*k you gonna put a powerhouse sub like audiobon in entry level . .u obviously have never heard a mid to high level audiobon sub before

[Drug Dylan]

wow...how is that first dude bout to put audiobahn all under entry level? n then have alpine high performance...dogg some alpine sh*t is garbage...i gotta audiobahn 10" in my trunk that would pound the fu*k outta 12" Alpine Type X

Why even question me?....

If you lay out all of Audiobahns products and all of Alpines products and put them into their own seperate catagories, Alpine would have more higher end products than Audiobahn. If that was the case I would have broken down EVERYONE's "low level" lines out seperate from their higher end stuff and that im not going to do.


Alpine>Audiobahn ....Point blank period


i agree with that.. how the fu*k you gonna put a powerhouse sub like audiobon in entry level . .u obviously have never heard a mid to high level audiobon sub before


Sounds more like you've never heard mid to high level ANYTHING if you are just going to flat out say Audiobahn is a "powerhouse sub". The only "powerhouse" sub they make is the Immortal. Ive been competing since 1997 I think ive heard just about every sub there is to offer, including your powerhouse Audiobahns.

[GhosT]

Why even question me?....

If you lay out all of Audiobahns products and all of Alpines products and put them into their own seperate catagories, Alpine would have more higher end products than Audiobahn. If that was the case I would have broken down EVERYONE's "low level" lines out seperate from their higher end stuff and that im not going to do.


Alpine>Audiobahn ....Point blank period





Sounds more like you've never heard mid to high level ANYTHING if you are just going to flat out say Audiobahn is a "powerhouse sub". The only "powerhouse" sub they make is the Immortal. Ive been competing since 1997 I think ive heard just about every sub there is to offer, including your powerhouse Audiobahns.


i agree. just becuase audiobahn has one good or descent sub, doesn't mean they are more than entry level bullsh*t. alpine will out perform almost all audiobahn
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[Drug Dylan]

Hell, I even used to run Audiobahn's briefly back in the day...they lasted a show and a half before they seperated like a hookers thighs. They were the Aluminum series (4 - 12's), supposedly 1000 watts RMS but couldnt even take a Directed 1100 per pair. Gotta love the pretty packaging they came in too, nicely laid out wooden crates per sub and everything. :smh:

[cviewplayer187]

How is obcon?...i know they have really good boxes but how bout there amps and subs?

[Drug Dylan]

How is obcon?...i know they have really good boxes but how bout there amps and subs?

Not so great....they do make decent prefab boxes though...amps and subs arent worth it though.

[ez-money]

Put Brax, Eton and Genesis into the high end category :D

[Drug Dylan]

Put Brax, Eton and Genesis into the high end category :D

That is where they are...

[profit]

VOLFENHAG 12 subs??
ebay seller says they are comp
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[Drug Dylan]

VOLFENHAG 12 subs??
ebay seller says they are comp
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Ebay seller wants you money....Volfenhag is very far from competition quality, more along the side of stay away. But if money is limited....I would pick up their subs before I would a Legacy, Profile, etc.

[WATITDOCUZ]

ayo, I use to have these 2 Quantum 12's hooked up in my car like 2 years ago right? Now I got 2 Memphis in the same car but it seem like the Quantums use to bang louda....I don't kno if that's my imagination or wat, they are better sound quality but don't bang like the Quantums use to... get at me

Where is Quantum on that list? ( I musta ova-looked it)

[Drug Dylan]

ayo, I use to have these 2 Quantum 12's hooked up in my car like 2 years ago right? Now I got 2 Memphis in the same car but it seem like the Quantums use to bang louda....I don't kno if that's my imagination or wat, they are better sound quality but don't bang like the Quantums use to... get at me

Where is Quantum on that list? ( I musta ova-looked it)

Quantum is a knockoff brand of Memphis different boxes can account for different sound. As well as the amp you used, to many variables to determine why one appeared louder than the other. Any day of the week I would put my money on the Memphis equipment in the right box.

[threesix716]

rockford speakers are high quality(power)

[Drug Dylan]

rockford speakers are high quality(power)

....and thats where I have them listed....

[jayroc]

Kenwood All Day!

[macc88]

is PIONEER DEH-1800 a good head unit

[**P$C**]

worst is pyle...best....kenwood & pioneer

[GhosT]

worst is pyle...best....kenwood & pioneer
lol, kenwood and pioneer are far from best
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[123456]

Ghost....i got a question.

I got a 12" eclipse titanium sub in a vented 2.5 cubic feet box...ive always heard theyre the top of the line and theyre one of the loudest subs but my cousin that thinks he knows everything says theres "so many subs" louder because the eclipse only takes 750 watts (im givin it 1000 watts). what subs do you know would hit harder in that same enclusure.

[bdiggy7896]

wat about premier which is made by pioneer cause those are the best speakers i've heard

[GhosT]

wat about premier which is made by pioneer cause those are the best speakers i've heard
then you haven't heard much, there are much better equipment out there
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[GhosT]

Ghost....i got a question.

I got a 12" eclipse titanium sub in a vented 2.5 cubic feet box...ive always heard theyre the top of the line and theyre one of the loudest subs but my cousin that thinks he knows everything says theres "so many subs" louder because the eclipse only takes 750 watts (im givin it 1000 watts). what subs do you know would hit harder in that same enclusure.
watts don't always matter. there are plenty subs louder, but that sub is a nice sounding sub, . i'd say stick with the eclipse. i can't give you any suggestions offhand for other subs for that size box, especially when i don't know what it's tuned at
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[123456]

watts don't always matter. there are plenty subs louder, but that sub is a nice sounding sub, . i'd say stick with the eclipse. i can't give you any suggestions offhand for other subs for that size box, especially when i don't know what it's tuned at
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my fault i forgot that part...tuned at 35 hz.

honestly i think later ill be giving my car to my bro along with the system...and get another car for me with a new sub. thats why im askin what sub gets louder than the eclipse. im thinkin the newest RE XXX. id probably be tuning it to 35 hz again with any new sub cause i like how it sounds like that..

[Surfinfool]

wait.. hold on... how r u gonna say "Kicker "Comp/Comp VR" (SW) "RS Series and under" (Sp)" the VR series is entry line,,,, now look at it ... the cvr w.e series im bout to get has dual voice coil it maxes out at 800 watts but it puts out better sound then 2 mtx subs that we listened to at the circuitcity,, now u must be smokin somethin, lol


all different series bro....some piece of sh*t mtx series may cost you 50 bucks a piece of 400 output watts....mine 850 bucks a piece putting out 1800 each...sounds serious MTX RFL (SW)...do some research on the series.

[dcole18]

all different series bro....some piece of sh*t mtx series may cost you 50 bucks a piece of 400 output watts....mine 850 bucks a piece putting out 1800 each...sounds serious MTX RFL (SW)...do some research on the series.


rfl's are bad as hell for spl, but a bunch of ppl told me they sound terrible?

[Drug Dylan]

very bad sounding subs, and nowadays there are much better alternatives for SPL to be used over/before the RFL.

[GhosT]

the rfl used to be a great sub for spl, but NOTHING more. they sound like absolute sh*t. thy only plus to the rfl is that they get pretty loud. but like dylan said, nowadays the are much better subs to use for spl that will get much louder
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[Jay T]

I was wondering if anyone has seen or heard a Hifonics Brutus BX15D2? I'm thinkin about getting one to push with a avionixx 800.2. I just need a 800 rms 15" that I can wire to 4 ohms. dual 2. And I don't wanna spend an arm and a leg. I just sold my Mtx 9500 15". Do ya think they are comparable?

[MrMayface]

What category would Total Mobile Audio be in?

[zeronergy1]

so yeah black friday is this month and since i be standin in line anyways with some friends i was thinking to get some subs for my car and i was wondering what you guys think is better or prefer. eclipse or alpine. i know best buy have alpine type Rs thanks for any help.

[123456]

so yeah black friday is this month and since i be standin in line anyways with some friends i was thinking to get some subs for my car and i was wondering what you guys think is better or prefer. eclipse or alpine. i know best buy have alpine type Rs thanks for any help.


oh damn i forgot about that friday sh*t...but honestly, i never heard a type R sub. ive heard alot of good things about it though. i know my friend has 2 12" Type S's and I have 1 12" Eclipse Titanium.

mine hits so much harder its unbelievable. and everybody that hears my system say its 1 of the loudest they ever heard. but remember it all depends on your box...

[NappyBoy001]

can anyone reccomend something for me...im looking for one 12" sub that puts out clean bass and also low freq... which sub would be right for me? High Quality + only....

[bcook38]

:thumbsdow :thumbsdow Since there are so many different car audio brands out there i wanna put together a list of brands for car audio newbs. The brands will be ranked in different sections:



Horrible brands - avoid these brands at all cost, there a total waste of money.


Entry level brands - good for the first time car audio enthusistest, you get a great sound for a cheap price.


High quality brands - these are more expensive that entry level, but not rediculously expensive, since you get execellent sound that will be louder/cleaner that entry level brands.


Competition brands - these brands are the mother of all brands, prices are very expensive but if you can afford it these are the brands that win sound competitions at car shows.



Now hold it. I have 3 type r ALPINE 12's and they are great. If u don't like ALPINE or JL audio W series what do u like???

[GhosT]

:thumbsdow :thumbsdow



Now hold it. I have 3 type r ALPINE 12's and they are great. If u don't like ALPINE or JL audio W series what do u like???
1st of all, what's your point, your comment and the qoute make no sense
2nd. all jl has is a w seriers for car audio, w0, w1, w3, w6, w7, i think they had a couple models that didn't start with w but they have been discontinued for years and years now. so what the hell do you mean by "W" series? they are all "W"
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[mmjr1089]

kicker baby luv the L7's

[Desiak]

does panasonic make good cd player, I see a good deal for at crutchfield, but i don't see them on any of the lists.

[Desiak]

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-L2i1WRIIwCn/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=300&tab=essential_info&i=133C8303#Tab

Panasonic CQ-C8303U

thats the one I'm thinkin of gettin. is that good

[Drug Dylan]

Panasonic decks are decent....

Crutchfield is super high though, you dont like shopping on the net?

[Desiak]

I was gonna cop it off crutchfield's website. It looks like all the sites is offerin the same deal. $300 cdplayer for $200. is that joint old or somethin, why such a nice deal. It looks like a good cd player. What category would ya'll put it in.

[Drug Dylan]

Id consider it entry level, but I also consider most Pioneer, Kenwood, Clarion, etc radio's entry level as well. Your radio is a good bargain though, 3 sets of pre outs, remote, pretty face, and MP3 playback for 200 bucks is a good buy.

[project ned]

yo, i got this german amp. i'm pretty sure its tight but what catagorie would u put "Volfenhag" (ZX-8200) it also says "A German Concept"....and i jsut got a Lanzar 4000 watt MXA 282. im know the 4000 watts is meaningless cuz its thats the maximum but for real...which amp should i keep and which should i sell?(i want the better one of course)

[SKINNI]

yo, i got this german amp. i'm pretty sure its tight but what catagorie would u put "Volfenhag" (ZX-8200) it also says "A German Concept"....and i jsut got a Lanzar 4000 watt MXA 282. im know the 4000 watts is meaningless cuz its thats the maximum but for real...which amp should i keep and which should i sell?(i want the better one of course)
SELL THEM BOTH TO THE FIRST SAP U FIND ON THE STREET. BOTH UNFORTUNATELY ARE GARBAGE. SORRY BRO. AND THAT COUGH & GAG IS FROM CALI BUT MADE IN CHINA. :sick:

[project ned]

for real. is 1000 RMS that bad? should just not fuks with buying on the internet. i dont know much about this sh*t so im tryyna read up on it before i buy/sell anything else. any advise would be chill

[SKINNI]

for real. is 1000 RMS that bad? should just not fuks with buying on the internet. i dont know much about this sh*t so im tryyna read up on it before i buy/sell anything else. any advise would be chill
1000 RMS IS GOOD POWER BUT UR NOT BEING SPECIFIC. I.E. WHAT ARE UR POWERING, 1000 RMS FROM WHAT, UR BUDGET, ECT.

[project ned]

well dog this is what i gotta say... i dont know enough sh*t about this to have a really intellegent conversation but this is the subs that i got here (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DUAL-460-watt-AMP-Subwoofer-w-2-12s-in-Light-up-Case_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ38647QQi hZ003QQitemZ130055491092QQrdZ1QQsspagena meZWDVW)
and this the the Lanzar amp
here (http://cgi.ebay.com/LANZAR-MXA282-4000-Watt-2-Channel-High-Power-MOSFET-Amp_W0QQitemZ270061682595QQihZ017QQcateg oryZ18796QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVi ewItem)
scroll down for the details. if you get anything out of that hit me back... if im being way too naive and dont want to waist your time its straight, but i got mad props on u if u can tell me if thats chill or where go to from here,
my budget as of now is about 300$ but i havent sold my old amp yet and i got mad paychecks coming....not tryin to pay above 800$
good lookin' out if u can help

[project ned]

and discard the dual amp that is on the first link im only talkin about the subs

[GhosT]

1st off all, the subs and the amp are garbage, 2nd how you do expect to run 2 460 watt subs with 4000w. you shouldn't hook 1 sub to each channel because that would be hooking them up in stereo, you need to bridge them. also, you need to take into consideration the ohms, you need to make sure the ohms match the amp or else you'll have problems

bottom line i say sell it all and start over. give us a budget and we will help you and explain more, but start a new thread
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[SKINNI]

Yea Bro I Co-sign Ghost. Those Duals Are About As Bad As U Can Get & The Lanzar Is Barely Much Better. Start A New Thread With A Budget, Ur Vehicle, & What Ur Trying To Accomplish (crazy Bass, Sq, Comp., Ect.)

Helpiing U Out Is No Problem. There Are Some Guys Here That Really Have Some Good Knowledge But Beware Of The Ones Who Hate On U & Whatever Ur Trying To Accomplish. Get That New Thread Goin & We Can Make It Happen

[PridesParanoia]

Everyone above is correct...Dual, Lanzar, Volfenhag, Jenson...it's all the same & it's all garbage. If your budget is truly $300 then you're kind of out of luck unless you find the right guy in the right van in a back-alley in Detroit.

If you can go up to $800 you have all sorts of options. Two Kicker CVR 12's in a Kicker Box w/ a 750.1 amp can run you $700 or less leaving $100 for the wiring. Just an example.

Trust me, you'll be much happier saving your money for a minute & buying good equipment that's going to bang loud & clear plus last a while than burning $300 on garbage.

[BklynKid718]

Pioneer GM-5200T 760 Watt 2-Channel Power Amplifier
Pioneer DEH-P7700MP In Dash CD/MP3/WMA Player
and two Pioneer TS-W301R 12" Component Subwoofer 800W

I bought the set for $200 flat for my 01 Civic ex (2door)
Im not very tech. when it comes to this stuff.. I just wanna know if I got a good deal and how good it works.. Im about to buy the sealed box for $100 plus some wiring too..

[SKINNI]

Pioneer GM-5200T 760 Watt 2-Channel Power Amplifier
Pioneer DEH-P7700MP In Dash CD/MP3/WMA Player
and two Pioneer TS-W301R 12" Component Subwoofer 800W

I bought the set for $200 flat for my 01 Civic ex (2door)
Im not very tech. when it comes to this stuff.. I just wanna know if I got a good deal and how good it works.. Im about to buy the sealed box for $100 plus some wiring too..
IF ITS ALL BRAND NEW ID SAY U GOT A GOOD DEAL. MAKE NO MISTAKE THOUGH..... THOSE SUBS ARE TRASH. THE AMP ISNT MUCH BETTER. ITS GOOD FOR MIDS/HIGHS AT BEST. COMPARED TO RETAIL OR EBAY EVEN, U GOT A GOOD DEAL BUT NOT EVERY GOOD DEAL IS WORTH BUYING. ID SAY KEEP THE DECK & SELL THE SUBS & AMP FOR WHAT U CAN GET

[BklynKid718]

IF ITS ALL BRAND NEW ID SAY U GOT A GOOD DEAL. MAKE NO MISTAKE THOUGH..... THOSE SUBS ARE TRASH. THE AMP ISNT MUCH BETTER. ITS GOOD FOR MIDS/HIGHS AT BEST. COMPARED TO RETAIL OR EBAY EVEN, U GOT A GOOD DEAL BUT NOT EVERY GOOD DEAL IS WORTH BUYING. ID SAY KEEP THE DECK & SELL THE SUBS & AMP FOR WHAT U CAN GET
word?? damn.. not even for a starter kit?? Im not tryna have the biggest boom on the block but at the same time I dont want a sh*tty system... so if its less than decent Ill have to do something with it then.. good lookin out though.. what would be recommended for that car though?? ($300-$400?) not including cables/boxes/installation ect. and best place to get it?

[GhosT]

with a budgetlike that, ebay is your best option, and really $300-$400 is pretty low for 2 subs and an amp. check www.elementaldesigns.com. they have some good prices and tend to have great sales

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[huy2k]

Im thinkin about gettin a system, but i cant decide whether to get ascendant audio arsenals, diamond audio M6, or JL audio W6s. seems like you guys know alot about subs. wonderin if you can give me some suggestions, and how well would the ascendant audio arsenals compared with JL W6s anyway?? thanks.

[-Phase One-]

Im thinkin about gettin a system, but i cant decide whether to get ascendant audio arsenals, diamond audio M6, or JL audio W6s. seems like you guys know alot about subs. wonderin if you can give me some suggestions, and how well would the ascendant audio arsenals compared with JL W6s anyway?? thanks.

W6's are great sound quality subs. They hit every note perfectly. They sound the best in sealed enclosures with about 500-900rms. The only con about them is the price, but they are worth every penny.

I'm not familiar with Diamond Audio subs (besides the D9) but they also make good subs.

Ascendant Audio are also a great brand. I installed a pair of Assassins for a friend a while back and I was impressed on how good they sound. For the price, you can't go wrong.

[-Phase One-]

Ah I just realized you said Arsenals. I'm not too familiar with them but I'm sure if the Assassins sound nice, the Arsenals will, too. Arsenals are probably their SQL sub.

I'd choose a W6 or an Arsenal.

[dcole18]

its def either AA Arsenal or the W6... it just depends on what exactly what you are looking for, in my opinion the W6 tends to be more of a pure sq sub, the Arsenal has been marketed as a high quality SQl sub that is extremly musical (it has been compared to the Adire Audio Brahma and has been said to be more musical than a Soundspliter RLp, that is a major compliment since the RLp is one of the most musical subs I have ever heard) and cheap, if it were me i would get the Arsenals so you dont have to deal with JL's overpricing...

[huy2k]

thanks for the help guys. Guess ill get some arsenels :)

[GhosT]

honestlt the d6's are also great subs, but the arsenals are probably the best priced
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[huy2k]

ok i was just about to get some arsenals until someone told me about the sound splinter RL-P. Now im having trouble deciding between the AA arsenals or or the SS Rl-p. how would these two compare?? thanks

[dcole18]

im not sure... thats a tough one, soundsplitner RL-p's are badass subs... i think they cost more, but im not absolutly sure about that

[obhguitar07]

i was lookin a the list and i didnt see treo's on there, i mighta missed them, but there kind of a local based sub in the midwest, they are pretty high quality, but not many people have heard of them

[dccrazy1122]

Tusnami Audio And Monkey Vid. Are Some HQ too.



Everything Is Kenwood in this Car Except I Went With the cheap DVD And Monitor. Don't Ever Buy Plye vid Equipment
:sleepy:

[Vas_finest]

jls and diamonds r the best

[GhosT]

jls and diamonds r the best

i own diamond audio, and i will say anyday of the week that they are FAR from the best, great fu*king sound for a great price but they will not beat dynaudio, focal or rainbow
as far as jbl goes, some descent amps but even farther from the best than diamond audio
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[-Phase One-]

I agree Ghost, but my opinion there is no best brands out there. It's all up to what you think sounds good to your ears and what comes close to your price range.

There's brands that are "better" than others but nothing is the best of all brands.

[GhosT]

^ exactly, i was going to say that but i didn't even think about it till after i posted it, and was to lazy to edit
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[dcole18]

i got bored so i started reading this and i noticed TC sounds wasnt on the main list... i deff. belive that is a company worth adding to the high quality if not competition list...

[SKINNI]

I agree Ghost, but my opinion there is no best brands out there. It's all up to what you think sounds good to your ears and what comes close to your price range.

There's brands that are "better" than others but nothing is the best of all brands.

WHOA NELLY! IVE HEARD THAT NOTHING & I MEAN NOTHING CAN COMPARE TO THOSE NEW JENSEN A/V HEADUNITS. COME ON GUYS:D

[bibbyboi]

I agree Ghost, but my opinion there is no best brands out there. It's all up to what you think sounds good to your ears and what comes close to your price range.

There's brands that are "better" than others but nothing is the best of all brands.

co-signs.....

[nYcKiNg23]

what about arc audio? a shop by me is selling them as well as ultra subs. i know the ultras are made by the owner of the shop and supposedly really good

[gweb63]

Interesting!

[SPLITP]

I know alot of ya'll buy car stereo stuff off ebay so my question is what's the best stuff you brought off ebay what was it was it a buy now or a item you bid on and how much was it?

[SKINNI]

Might Want To Make A New Post Of This Question. Good Question But This Post Is Topic Specific

[airmcnair06]

Is Quantum audio a good brand?

These looked pretty good, but I didnt see them on the list, so I didnt know.......

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-12-3000-WATT-MONSTER-CAR-SUBWOOFERS-1500w-RMS-SUBS_W0QQitemZ270138654398QQihZ017QQcate goryZ18803QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Thanx

[SKINNI]

Nope. Slightly Better Junk Than Boss (if That). Most Pawn Shops Around Here Get Stuff Like That & Visonik In. A Few Weeks Ago I Was At A Local Pawn Shop & Saw 2 Cadence 12' S Kill 5 Quantum 12' S. Same Amp On Each Set. Absolutely No Comparison. Ive Heard Them In A Few Other Applications But Cant Say I Was Impressed. For That Price Ud Be Better Goin With 2 Kicker Cvr' S

[Cartel]

I Think People Get It Confused. Its Easy To Say What U Like Best But Dont Be Soo Quick To Declare What Is Best. Especially When Talkin About Brands That Can Be Bought Off The Shelf Of Any Mega Chain Store. Those Places Tend To Not Have The Top Of The Line Stuff (i.e. Best Buy, Circut City, Ect. Really Dont Cater To Professionally Competing Car Audiophiles). They Might Have Some Nice Stuff But Its Far From "the Best Out There". Most Of The Best U Wont Even Find On The Shelves Of A Dedicated Car Audio Shop. Only Special Order For Lack Of The Market. How Many F 1' S Are Sold On Average Vs. Plain Jane Pioneer Decks.

very true .. fu*kign circuit city dont even carry any subs/amps over 1000 watts and youll have a hard time having thiem install a system combined that has over 1000 wats because they dont even have the proper equipment and suplies to install it .. i use to go to circuit city to get my sh*t only because of the extened car plan but my kicker kx1200.1 amp got screwed up and they couldnt get me a replacement because it was 1200 wats and they no longer carry anything over 1000 ... so now i just go to local car audio shops .. they have more limited selection but what you got to choose from is top shelf sh*t and you got a professional installing ya sh*t who does this for a living no sum sales associate who took a 2 day class at circuit city to be able to install sh*t in cars half assed

[Cartel]

I Think People Get It Confused. Its Easy To Say What U Like Best But Dont Be Soo Quick To Declare What Is Best. Especially When Talkin About Brands That Can Be Bought Off The Shelf Of Any Mega Chain Store. Those Places Tend To Not Have The Top Of The Line Stuff (i.e. Best Buy, Circut City, Ect. Really Dont Cater To Professionally Competing Car Audiophiles). They Might Have Some Nice Stuff But Its Far From "the Best Out There". Most Of The Best U Wont Even Find On The Shelves Of A Dedicated Car Audio Shop. Only Special Order For Lack Of The Market. How Many F 1' S Are Sold On Average Vs. Plain Jane Pioneer Decks.

very true .. fu*kign circuit city dont even carry any subs/amps over 1000 watts and youll have a hard time having thiem install a system combined that has over 1000 wats because they dont even have the proper equipment and suplies to install it .. i use to go to circuit city to get my sh*t only because of the extened car plan but my kicker kx1200.1 amp got screwed up and they couldnt get me a replacement because it was 1200 wats and they no longer carry anything over 1000 ... so now i just go to local car audio shops .. they have more limited selection but what you got to choose from is top shelf sh*t and you got a professional installing ya sh*t who does this for a living no sum sales associate who took a 2 day class at circuit city to be able to install sh*t in cars half assed

[Cartel]

I Think People Get It Confused. Its Easy To Say What U Like Best But Dont Be Soo Quick To Declare What Is Best. Especially When Talkin About Brands That Can Be Bought Off The Shelf Of Any Mega Chain Store. Those Places Tend To Not Have The Top Of The Line Stuff (i.e. Best Buy, Circut City, Ect. Really Dont Cater To Professionally Competing Car Audiophiles). They Might Have Some Nice Stuff But Its Far From "the Best Out There". Most Of The Best U Wont Even Find On The Shelves Of A Dedicated Car Audio Shop. Only Special Order For Lack Of The Market. How Many F 1' S Are Sold On Average Vs. Plain Jane Pioneer Decks.

very true .. fu*kign circuit city dont even carry any subs/amps over 1000 watts and youll have a hard time having thiem install a system combined that has over 1000 wats because they dont even have the proper equipment and suplies to install it .. i use to go to circuit city to get my sh*t only because of the extened car plan but my kicker kx1200.1 amp got screwed up and they couldnt get me a replacement because it was 1200 wats and they no longer carry anything over 1000 ... so now i just go to local car audio shops .. they have more limited selection but what you got to choose from is top shelf sh*t and you got a professional installing ya sh*t who does this for a living no sum sales associate who took a 2 day class at circuit city to be able to install sh*t in cars half assed

[airmcnair06]

i wanted to let yall know, stay away form ssl too, that is like an alternate name for soundstorm. My first amp was a soundstorm, but the amp actually says ssl on it.

So, I just thought I'd let yall know that. Might want to add that to the stay away list. Cause I almost bought a ssl amp, but I didnt see it on the list AT ALL, then I realized soundstorm was ssl.........

[lilflip01]

OK I GOT A 2001 BUICK REGAL WAT AMP AND SUBS CAN I GET TO KNOCK HARDER THEN THE SOLO X'S IF POSSIBLE


:blunt:

[lilflip01]

hows volfenhag

[GhosT]

they suck
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[balmoralcastle]

i actually feel better about my sound system now

[lilflip01]

i had some bullsh*t sony 12's and my amp blow them i think so wat do u think i should get next i want subs that hit like no other wat should i get

[GhosT]

create a thread and post a budget
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[SKINNI]

alright guys...
ive had 2 diamond audio d6 12d4s for about a year with a memphis mcd-1000 running 1 ohm and i like it, but i want a little more spl while still keeping better than average sq

thinkin about changing it up cuz my amp is startin to fall apart lol the gain knob has to be shoved back into the amp when i get in the car every morning and the subs have some cosmetic damage from sh*t rolling around in the trunk

so should i just get the same sh*t again and be happy....or should i go hifonics now? ive heard good things about them, but never actually heard the subs playing (hard to find around here) and im kinda worried about the cheap price tag. is it just a good value or are they really not worth much more? lol



hifonics brutus 12 d4 for $79 each, bxd1206 for $239...
or
DA d612d4 for $154 a pop, and the new (black pearl) mcd1000 for $429

budget is kinda loose, thinkin about DA D9 12s too...dunno yet. i can live with what i got for a while til i can afford whatever...

not lookin to break records, just good CLEAN sound that can rattle the windows.

peace

GOOD INFO GIVEN TO ANSWER UR QUESTION BRO BUT COULD U POST IN A NEW THREAD. THEY TRY TO KEEP EACH THREAD ON TOPIC & THIS IS A STICKY FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE. MAKE A NEW ONE & THERE ARE SEVERAL GUYS WHO CAN EASILY HELP OUT. MYSELF INCLUDED

[bassfiend316]

BEYMA??

just saw this a minute ago. anybody have opinions?

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/viewcat.php?show_thumbnails=1&show_description=1&id=41&car_only=&page=1&manufacturer=154&new_page=1

[Ryder248]

id have to say that i have a modded d3 earthquake pushing 4 rockford fosgate power hx2 with a pioneer deh-p980bt hu and ive won competitions with this system the subs are in the right catergory but the eathquake has to be bumped up to competition grade

[htown860]

Is this list still being updated?? Just curious, because I didn't see FI Car Audio on there anywhere (www.ficaraudio.com). I'd assume the BTL would be in the Competition category and probably the rest in HQ. I'm not sure though, was actually looking for feedback on the company if anyone knows about 'em because I'm planning on getting an 18" BL. Thanks in advance.

[large632]

I'll hook up a list in a sec....

Blazin right now :)....

* EDIT: *

HU = Head Units
A = Amps
SW = Subs
Sp = Mids/Highs
M = Multimedia
All = Entire Line

Stay Away

American Pro (All)
Audiobank (All)
Blackmore Mobile Electronics (All)
Blitz (All)
DHD (All)
Diesel Audio (All)
Kenford (All)
Kole Audio (All)
Legacy (All)
Majestic (All)
Performance Teknique (All)
Phase Linear (All)
Pyle (All)
Pyramid (All)
Rockwood (All)
Sherwood (All)
SPL (all)
Solid Audio (All)
Sound Storm (All)
Street Edge (All)
Ultra Linear (All)
XFile Audio (All)


Entry Level

Alphasonik (All)
Alto Mobile USA (All)
Alumapro (All)
Ample Audio (All)
Audiobahn (All)
Audiopipe (All)
Audiovox (All)
Autotek "SS Series" (All)
Bazooka (All)
Blaupunkt (All)
Boss (All)
Bostwick (All)
Cadence ("All" tough decision just shy of high quality)
Cerwin Vega ("All" except Strokers which go in Comp')
Clarion (A, SW, Sp)
Clif Designs (All)
Concept (All)
Coustic (All)
Crossfire "P Series" (SW)
Crunch (All)
Cutting Edge Audio (All)
DB Drive (All)
Diablo Audio (All)
Digital Audio (All)
Dual (All)
Dub Mag Audio (All)
Elevation Audio ("All" except EX Series (SW) which go in Comp)
Emerson (All)
Harrison Labs (All)
Hifonics "Zues Series and lower" (All)
Hollywood Sound Intl. Corp (All)
Infinity (All)
Interfire (All)
JBL ("All" except ??? Series which go in Comp')
Jensen (All)
JVC (All)
Kenwood ("All" except Excelon series which go in HQ)
Kicker "Comp/Comp VR" (SW) "RS Series and under" (Sp)
Kove Audio (All)
Lanzar ("All' except Opti Drive series which go in HQ)
Lightning Audio (All)
MA Audio ("All" except larger/upper model HK Series amps which go in HQ)
Matrxx Audio (All)
MB Quart (SW)
Memphis "PR Series" (All)
MTX ("All" except 9500 Series (SW) which go in HQ)
Niche Audio (All)
Phoenix Gold (SW)
Pioneer (SW,Sp,A)
Planet Audio (All)
Polk Audio (All)
Power Acoustik (All)
Powerbase (All)
Profile (All)
Rockford Fosgate ("All" except Power Series which go in HQ)
Sanyo (All)
Scosche (All)
Sony (All)
SoundStream (All)
Swiss Audio (All)
US Acoustics (All)
Visonik (All)
Xsite (All)


High Quality

A/D/S/ (All)
Adire Audio (All)
Alpine (All)
American Bass (All)
Ascendant Audio (All)
AudioControl (All)
Audison (All)
Avionixx (All)
Boston Acoustics (All)
Brax (All)
CDT Audio (All)
Clarion (HU, M)
Critical Mass (All)
Crossfire "W Series" (SW) "VR Series" (A)
Crystal (All)
Diamond Audio (All)
Directed (All)
DLS (All)
Dynaudio (All)
Earthquake (All)
Elemental Designs (All)
Eclipse (All)
Focal (All)
Fusion (All)
Genesis (All)
Helix (All)
Hifonics "Brutus Series" (All)
Image Dynamics (All)
Incriminator Audio (All)
JL Audio ("All" except lower W series (SW) which go in Entry)
Kenwood "Excelon series" (All)
Kicker "KX/SX Series" (A) "L5/L7" (SW) "SS Series" (Sp)
Lanzar "Opti Drive" (A)
MA Audio "HK2000/HK4000" (A)
Massive Audio (All)
MB Quart (Sp)
McIntosh (All)
Memphis (MC Series) (All)
Milbert (All)
Morel (All)
MTX "9500 Series" (SW)
Nakamichi (All)
Orion (A,SW,Sp)
OZ Audio (All)
PHD Audiophile Sound System (All)
Phase Evolution (All)
Phoenix Gold (A)
Pioneer (HU,M)
Powerbass USA (All)
Precision Power (All)
QAS (All)
RE Audio ("All" except MT Series (SW) which go in Comp)
Rockford Fosgate "Power Series" (SW,A)
Seas Lotus (All)
Sinfoni (All)
Treo Engineering (All)
TRU Technology (All)
Tube Driver Blue (All)
US Amps (All)
Xtant (All)
Zapco (All)

Competition

Alpine F1 (All)
Atomic (SW,A)
Autotek "MM Series" (All)
Cerwin Vega "Stroker" (SW)
Digital Designs (All)
Elevation Audio EX Series (SW)
Hifonics "XX Series" (All)
JBL "JBL/Crown Series" (A) "G TI Series" (SW)
Kicker "Solo X" (SW)
MMats Professional Audio (All)
MTX RFL (SW)
Pioneer TS-W5000SPL (SW)
Rainbow (All)
RE Audio "MT Series" (SW)
Team RF (SW)


(Updated 9/8....More to come)

Thats a mean list good looking on the info.

[Tiltedimage]

My friend had 2 12" audiobahn immortals connected to a Directed 1500 watt amp and it was crazy.......

JL AUDIO
AUDIOBAHN
DIRECTED AMPLIFIERS

[GhosT]

audiobahn sucks
jl is far from the best
directed has some nice amps

you should open your eyes to the other brands out there that are far better
one
GhosT

[ty_black]

so what kinda amp would yall throw on a 15" L7?

[SKINNI]

so what kinda amp would yall throw on a 15" L7?

WHAT KINDA MONEY U GOT TO THROW ON A AMP?

[ty_black]

prolly like 250.. is that get me a pretty good amp? how much should i throw to get a amp that will straight pound with a 15" L7?

[GhosT]

create a thread if you need help
one
GhosT

[ty_black]

i already did, u were the only one that answered it. so i figured id ask in this thread since so many ppl have read/commented on it

[GhosT]

they're all old comments
one
GhosT